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90blue
01-06-2016, 08:31 PM
It has been a long time since I have not been concerned with the best performance I could afford. But now, I would like to have just street wheel and tires.
I currently have 6ULs with 888s. The rear cage is NB to the hubs and is pushed out about a half inch on each side.
I don't like the look of stock offset wheels as they seem to be pushed in too far. I like the wide look.
What size wheel would fit my needs ? And what offset ?

Phatmiata
01-06-2016, 08:33 PM
so you have the rear subframe from an NB installed on your NA?

90blue
01-06-2016, 08:44 PM
Yes.
Front and rear, to the wheels

Greasemonkey2000
01-06-2016, 09:14 PM
A +25 to +36 is going to be pretty flush with stock fenders (rolling fenders may be needed depending on ride height, camber, tire size). I have 15x8 Konig Flatout's +25mm w/ 225 RS3's and they are pretty flush:
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b261/superhonda02/97%20M%20Edition/photography/07-04-15%20MC70%20photoshoot/DSC_2721_zpswvj1n5mv.jpg (http://s21.photobucket.com/user/superhonda02/media/97%20M%20Edition/photography/07-04-15%20MC70%20photoshoot/DSC_2721_zpswvj1n5mv.jpg.html)


I just saw you have 6UL's(+36?), they aren't flush?

90blue
01-06-2016, 10:33 PM
Nice look
Avatar pic says pretty flush with 15x8 gen 3
I am rolled at the rear

http://i1136.photobucket.com/albums/n492/epnowak/GBM54509_zpsmdu2vlhs.jpg

Greasemonkey2000
01-06-2016, 11:09 PM
Thanks. :)


So you are looking for more aggressive offset, wider wheels and tires?

Im kind of confused what you are looking for since you already have a fairly flush setup and pressume flush was your goal since you mentioned not liking the sunken look of factory offsets but didn't mention modifying the fenders to accommodate anything more aggressive than what I mentioned, since anything beyond would need the fenders pulled or fender flares.

90blue
01-06-2016, 11:13 PM
Want to stay as flush as possible but am looking to reduce the width, so need offset specs for the wheel size

Greasemonkey2000
01-06-2016, 11:15 PM
So a 15x7 with a offset to maintain a flush fit?

If this is the case then the offset isn't changing since it would take the same offset for a similarly sized wheel as in this case of 15x8 down to 15x7, maybe I'm wrong because wheel specs and understanding offsets are not my strong suit.

90blue
01-06-2016, 11:16 PM
Probably so

What you thinking, 25 ?

Greasemonkey2000
01-06-2016, 11:23 PM
+25 is what i would suspect but maybe a little more aggressive depending on tires size.

I know there is much more knowledgeable people here in this regard, hopefully they will chime in and either confirm or correct.

wannafbody
01-06-2016, 11:25 PM
A 15X7.5 +32 offset would work, with about the same look as your current 6UL's. Konig Lightspeed and Retrack are about your only options.

http://www.good-win-racing.com/Mazda-Performance-Part/60-1043B.html

http://www.good-win-racing.com/Mazda-Performance-Part/61-0321.html

90blue
01-06-2016, 11:40 PM
Thanks
Rewinds look nice but 20mm ?

turboedpickup
01-07-2016, 11:34 AM
Thanks
Rewinds look nice but 20mm ?

15x7 +20 would be equivalent to a 15x8 +33

Edit: embarrassed at conversion failure :cry2:

90blue
01-07-2016, 12:25 PM
Thanks.
Now what tire size can I get away with ?
205 or 195 or something else ?

Greasemonkey2000
01-07-2016, 01:14 PM
Well according to Tire Rack and similar entities a 205 is the widest that a 7"-7.5" wheel will accommodate but of course that is really the bull crap equivalent to saying they won't mount any tire that has to be "stretched" to fit, even in the slightest.

turboedpickup
01-07-2016, 01:22 PM
Just double checking your picture from earlier... (and actually - my bad on the math, I keep on forgetting a factor of 2) if 15x8+36 is relatively flush for you at your current height. Then your "equivalents" would be...

15x7.5 +30
15x7.0 +23
15x6.5 +17
15x6.0 +11

So my earlier comment... should actually be... 15x7 +20 is equivalent to 15x8 +33

Edit: And damnit greasemonkey...you make me want to get 225s. I'll probably be content with some meaty 205's though on my 15x8 +25. Currently on BF GFSComp2 195's... only ones available at the time.

90blue
01-07-2016, 04:15 PM
so the 20s should come close,

The 205s would be compressed on 7s, Sounds like 195s would be a better fit ? The also sound small.

HarryB
01-07-2016, 04:35 PM
I run 205's on 6.5" wheels, you cannot really see if they compress or not.

90blue
01-07-2016, 04:59 PM
Interesting.
So what ever is cheaper I guess

90blue
01-08-2016, 12:50 PM
These look nice as well at under $500 for the set, 15x7 +25
http://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/1usAAOSwu-BWQUZN/s-l500.jpg

90blue
01-08-2016, 12:54 PM
Just double checking your picture from earlier... (and actually - my bad on the math, I keep on forgetting a factor of 2) if 15x8+36 is relatively flush for you at your current height. Then your "equivalents" would be...

15x7.5 +30
15x7.0 +23
15x6.5 +17
15x6.0 +11

So my earlier comment... should actually be... 15x7 +20 is equivalent to 15x8 +33

Edit: And damnit greasemonkey...you make me want to get 225s. I'll probably be content with some meaty 205's though on my 15x8 +25. Currently on BF GFSComp2 195's... only ones available at the time.
How are the Comp 2s ? Noisy ? Crisp turn in ?

turboedpickup
01-08-2016, 04:42 PM
They're not too bad. I'm probably not the best person to ask about turn-in feel etc. I'd say S-drives were quieter, but grip is solid - for this tire.

90blue
01-08-2016, 04:58 PM
By way of comparison then, I had s drives a few years ago, felt like mush with little steering input feel (to me).
I have 888s now and enjoy the feel.
How do the 2 compare ?

turboedpickup
01-09-2016, 12:11 PM
Ah. I see. There's definitely a big gap between those two tires if I'm not mistaken. 888s are essentially track tire. Sport comps are rated 340...while the 888s are rated 100 (UTQG). If you like the feel of 888s I'd probably recommend sticking to tires rated at <200... Maybe RE-11's?

wannafbody
01-09-2016, 12:16 PM
RE11A's get great reviews. Yoke AD08R's are very good as well.

90blue
01-09-2016, 12:24 PM
Ah. I see. There's definitely a big gap between those two tires if I'm not mistaken. 888s are essentially track tire. Sport comps are rated 340...while the 888s are rated 100 (UTQG). If you like the feel of 888s I'd probably recommend sticking to tires rated at <200... Maybe RE-11's?

I like the 8s for their stiff side walls, getting a little tired of the noise after 3 years. I had Pilots and thought the world of them for feedback. I don't think it is so much the wear rating as it is the stiffness of the side walls that makes for a good feedback tire.

So, a tire with good turn in feedback and a quiet ride will work.
Your recommendations please.

Hyper
01-09-2016, 01:24 PM
Well according to Tire Rack and similar entities a 205 is the widest that a 7"-7.5" wheel will accommodate but of course that is really the bull crap equivalent to saying they won't mount any tire that has to be "stretched" to fit, even in the slightest.

INTERESTING!!

So if I install the rear subframe from NA miata into NB the rear tires would need a lot negative offset to compensate the gap between the fenders and wheels. That will look really cool in a NB miata in my point of view.

[IMG]http://i294.photobucket.com/albums/mm113/pstubkjaer/P1030120.jpg

90blue
01-09-2016, 02:02 PM
INTERESTING!!

So if I install the rear subframe from NA miata into NB the rear tires would need a lot negative offset to compensate the gap between the fenders and wheels. That will look really cool in a NB miata in my point of view.

[IMG]http://i294.photobucket.com/albums/mm113/pstubkjaer/P1030120.jpg

I think it is more than the frame and you will only get a half inch per side from this. The wider stance includes the hubs from the nb. But yea just swap the entire assembly from a 95-97 and you are there.

turboedpickup
01-09-2016, 06:20 PM
I like the 8s for their stiff side walls, getting a little tired of the noise after 3 years. I had Pilots and thought the world of them for feedback. I don't think it is so much the wear rating as it is the stiffness of the side walls that makes for a good feedback tire.

So, a tire with good turn in feedback and a quiet ride will work.
Your recommendations please.

Ah agreed. It's just generally the wear rating are tied decently to the type of feel since they're targeting a specific market. You're generally not looking at a <200 rating for comfort. I'd recommend the RE-11 ...my friend's s2k rides on them and...I'll just say they're nice :)

90blue
01-09-2016, 09:22 PM
Thanks, helpful.

I am wondering is anyone has tries Maxxis street tires ? or Federals ? or any of the semi performance tires in the touring category ?

90blue
01-09-2016, 09:35 PM
Regarding the Rota RBs 15x7 +25,
anybody know if these will these clear Sport brakes ?
Will these clear 11" Wilwoods ?

HarryB
01-10-2016, 04:39 AM
Federals are a popular choice in UK, I have tried the 595 Evo in a friends' NB2 and I liked it. Regarding wheels, I believe they should clear sport brakes just fine.

90blue
01-10-2016, 04:19 PM
Thanks !

kung fu jesus
01-14-2016, 03:06 PM
Here's a suggestion. Take off your rear wheels, make a plumb bob with some string and a bit of weight on the end and start taking measurements from the fender lip or the outer edge (depending on if you roll your fenders). Next measure the back spacing of your calipers. You can also take another set of measurements with your current wheels on the car so you have a reference from those wheels' specs. All this will give you definitive numbers you can work with rather than playing a guessing game.

Don't know how to take the measurements?

https://www.rsracing.com/TechWheel.aspx

https://media4.giphy.com/media/Y2nbrJyAR6RiM/200_s.gif

HarryB
01-14-2016, 03:25 PM
:cheers: to the most useful post I've seen in a while, bookmarked the link for future reference!