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CMP
06-06-2016, 12:33 PM
REALLY??? That's awesome. Will you be making some that fit RPF1's?

I am actually in the process of designing center caps that fit 15" RPF1s. I intend to leave a 58mm blank area on the exterior so end users may add their own custom badging - in this case, Adam's 58mm design would work admirably.

oldgrayleather
06-06-2016, 02:03 PM
I am actually in the process of designing center caps that fit 15" RPF1s. I intend to leave a 58mm blank area on the exterior so end users may add their own custom badging - in this case, Adam's 58mm design would work admirably.

Any chance you might be considering some for the 14's? Proving really hard to find a good solution (and have mixed commentary on the Konig Helium caps working)..

CMP
06-06-2016, 02:52 PM
Any chance you might be considering some for the 14's? Proving really hard to find a good solution (and have mixed commentary on the Konig Helium caps working)..

I think 14" and 15" are the same. Please measure your hub bore diameter for me and PM me the info so I can compare to the 15" dimensions.

CMP
08-24-2016, 08:51 AM
I just wanted to pop in and mention that I'm finalizing the design for the 15" RPF1 center caps, and will be teaming up with Marc over at CarbonMiata to produce them very soon.

14" versions will be coming soon, after I do some local inspection and test fitting.

Below is a 'low res' 3d printed example of the center cap being test-fitted on my Mazda 2. It's more of a 24-sided polygon than a circle, but the finished product will be a perfect circle.


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Greasemonkey2000
08-24-2016, 11:14 AM
Thats awesome! Hope they sell well and teach Enkei for dropping the ball!! :fp:

oldgrayleather
08-24-2016, 11:37 AM
Can't wait for the 14's!!

CMP
09-07-2016, 10:24 AM
The product is finished and has been sent to Marc at CarbonMiata for production. I discovered that these should also work on the Konig Helium so that broadens our market.

https://images2.sw-cdn.net/product/picture/625x465_15623063_9202026_1473173631.jpg

Next up are the 14" center cap variants.

MiataQuest
09-07-2016, 11:40 AM
That looks like a good candidate for injection molding.
Injection mold tooling for that part in the outskirts of Shanghai would be about USD $6,000.
Maybe $3800 using insert molding.
Gonna need to sell a lot of caps!

Are you thinking another manufacturing process?

CMP
09-07-2016, 11:56 AM
Marc is handling that aspect of it. I'm just the designer and have no experience in such things. :)

MiataQuest
09-07-2016, 12:11 PM
Tell Marc he need to improve or implement a final QC procedure.
The rear quad LED panel I purchased should have never left the factory with the poor quality I received.

Phatmiata
09-07-2016, 12:13 PM
I just wanted to pop in and mention that I'm finalizing the design for the 15" RPF1 center caps, and will be teaming up with Marc over at CarbonMiata to produce them very soon.

14" versions will be coming soon, after I do some local inspection and test fitting.

Below is a 'low res' 3d printed example of the center cap being test-fitted on my Mazda 2. It's more of a 24-sided polygon than a circle, but the finished product will be a perfect circle.


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that cap looks very shallow, would it not be better to make them deeper so that it can fit other cars in case the center hub protrudes out more from the wheel?

just thinking out loud

Hyper
09-07-2016, 01:15 PM
it looks horrible

CMP
09-07-2016, 01:37 PM
that cap looks very shallow, would it not be better to make them deeper so that it can fit other cars in case the center hub protrudes out more from the wheel?

just thinking out loud

This cap was an initial lo-res test run and has been altered in design since. The furthest protruding axle stub I found thus far was on the rear of a Miata, and the finished design clears it just fine.



it looks horrible

Thank you for your constructive feedback?

CMP
09-07-2016, 01:43 PM
Tell Marc he need to improve or implement a final QC procedure.
The rear quad LED panel I purchased should have never left the factory with the poor quality I received.

Thanks, but you should probably take that up with Marc. All I did was design a center cap; I don't represent CarbonMiata.

MiataQuest
09-07-2016, 02:08 PM
Thanks, but you should probably take that up with Marc. All I did was design a center cap; I don't represent CarbonMiata.
Apologies to you.
BTW, Thanks for working on a cap design proposal for our wheels.

Here is a similar design to yours.
If it sits about the same I think it looks pretty good in my mind.
I could imagine a Rev Limiter custom center.
http://www.dsgperformance.com/assets/images/products/work/work%20emotion%20center%20caps%20flat%20type%20bla ck%20dsg%20performance.jpg

Martin
09-07-2016, 03:21 PM
it looks horrible

It's a center cap. How fancy does it need to be?

RotorNutFD3S
09-07-2016, 03:35 PM
It's a center cap. How fancy does it need to be?

Exactly. I think someone is just upset that a part someone else designed is actually marketable.

Good job with this Chris!

Hyper
09-07-2016, 04:03 PM
Exactly. I think someone is just upset that a part someone else designed is actually marketable.

Good job with this Chris!

I am not upset, I am honest perhaps the final design will look better than the prototype.

revlimiter
09-07-2016, 04:59 PM
I could imagine a Rev Limiter custom center.


http://revlimiter.net/store/wheel/cap1.jpg

I'd love to make some cap inserts!

CMP
09-08-2016, 02:12 PM
I'd love to make some cap inserts!

Your first order is on the way!

CMP
09-21-2016, 10:28 AM
I received the first set of pre-production center caps last weekend and started painting them. Since they're 3d printed, the surface is rough, unlike injection molded plastic, so they're taking a bit of extra time to prep with layers of filler primer and silver paint. I just finished wet sanding the first two coats of silver paint, and over the next couple of days I will be applying two more coats of silver paint, wet sanding again, then adding clearcoat. After they cure, I'll be applying the center cap decals that Adam sent me and will post pictures of them mounted on my Mazda 2.

Marc is in the process of researching fabrication costs in both plastic and cnc aluminum (in between releasing more awesome ND stuff), so we're making progress on that front as well.

CMP
09-26-2016, 06:09 AM
Here are the very first potatocam pics of the pre-production center caps with Adam's lovely work attached to them.

https://c2.staticflickr.com/6/5786/29313036793_2b95d3cd53_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/LEhYA6)

https://c4.staticflickr.com/9/8180/29313036523_8171e822fa_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/LEhYvr)

https://c8.staticflickr.com/9/8045/29313037063_578bd356fc_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/LEhYEK)

tsingson
09-26-2016, 08:00 AM
Sweet! If/when the 14" caps are available, I will have to grab a set.

revlimiter
09-26-2016, 08:33 AM
The minimal cap design fits the RPF1 perfectly. Well done sir!

tsingson
09-26-2016, 08:34 AM
After seeing these pics, I am leaning more and more towards keeping the 14s and getting rid of the 15s.

CMP
09-26-2016, 09:09 AM
Sweet! If/when the 14" caps are available, I will have to grab a set.

They will be available, given time, though I'm not sure if they'll go full production like the 15" version due to costs and demand. It's not hard to DIY the 3d printed versions, just time-consuming. This was 2 coats of filler primer, 2 coats silver paint, wet sand, 2 coats silver paint, wet sand, 2 coats silver paint, 2 coats clear coat.

I don't suppose I can borrow one of your 14's for test fitment can I? lol


The minimal cap design fits the RPF1 perfectly. Well done sir!

And your badges fit the caps perfectly! Thank you sir!

tsingson
09-26-2016, 09:19 AM
For a free set of caps? As long as you pick up and drop off, anytime. :blaugh2: But seriously, I would not have a problem with that. I have a second set of wheels to roll on for a bit.

CMP
09-26-2016, 10:18 AM
I drive right through RDU to visit my folks in VA, maybe we can work something out. Might be easier just to ship you lo-res testing models.

tsingson
09-26-2016, 10:55 AM
That could work also.

revlimiter
09-26-2016, 12:04 PM
I don't suppose I can borrow one of your 14's for test fitment can I? lol


And your badges fit the caps perfectly! Thank you sir!

I have a spare 14" RPF1 that I can measure as many times as you'd like. I'd not want to ship it, but... yeah. If you wanna have a huge email string with pix and measurements to get a 14" RPF1 center cap into existence I'd be game for it.

CMP
09-26-2016, 01:04 PM
I have a spare 14" RPF1 that I can measure as many times as you'd like. I'd not want to ship it, but... yeah. If you wanna have a huge email string with pix and measurements to get a 14" RPF1 center cap into existence I'd be game for it.

Yes please! I know that the 14" variant has a stepped hub bore, and the rear of the hub bore sits flush, which prevents use of a standard center cap design like that used on the 15" RPF1. There is a depression on the inside wall of the outer hub bore itself where a center cap may clip in. I need to know the outer hub bore diameter, the maximum diameter of overlap before protruding into the lug holes, the depth of that depression on the hub bore wall from the face of the wheel, and the volume/shape of that depression.

This is a pic Proyea kindly took for me to illustrate. As you can see the inner hub bore is irrelevant to my interests.

http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160611/a77ce04b788293c8a67af70b4b25748f.jpg