My 95 becomes my fun track toy. (WARNING: COLLEGE BUILD, slow progress)

[xjdesertfox]

$1k? I had a half-cage (main hoop back, legal sized tubing, welded in) fabbed for $350. Are you doing a full cage or just a roll bar with lots of look-cool crap, hype and overpricing added to it? Again, I mean no offense (to both parties), but I can't justify paying that much for just a roll bar that has some fancy gusseting and nothing else that makes it better than any other roll bar, no matter how nice it looks. A grand is full cage territory. Just food for thought. If you are indeed going full cage, I will take that back. lol

That's a fair reason to not have one yet, though.

I actually used to build off road race trucks for desert racing here in california, and I'm a fabricator myself. I know good work when I see it, and Ive discussed the materials and methods we're talking about using on my setup, and theres no way I could even cover the cost of materials and consumables for $350. I'm looking to do a half cage, I want it welded in, with it tied into the chassis at multiple locations. I would do it myself, but I no longer have access to a bender/welder.

[ThatWhiteNA]

Maybe the shop I went to is underwater in debt. Who knows? I won't turn this into a ten page argument.

Either way, have fun spending extra money for no reason. I'm sure the car will turn out as nicely as it already has no matter what you do.

[xjdesertfox]

Maybe the shop I went to is underwater in debt. Who knows? I won't turn this into a ten page argument.

Either way, have fun spending extra money for no reason. I'm sure the car will turn out as nicely as it already has no matter what you do.

Dont get me wrong man I definitely shopped around here to find a price. Those people who are recommended out here in socal are all charging in the same ball park, so I figured I'd take it to the man who knows miatas anyways.

Im a very deal oriented person and if I could find the same quality for cheaper I would.

[xjdesertfox]

So everything on the car has been running smoothly lately, I havnt been posting updates because I havnt been doing anything to the car, just driving it.

Im trying to carefully plan my next steps in my build, theyre going to be the most costly.

First up on the bucket list is a roll bar. I dont know If I can afford a 6 point yet, But I just need some sort of protection right now.

After that Im going to get a RB FSB.

Now here is where Im still debating; what the hell do I do for suspension?

Theres so many options, its been covered in this thread, but I just didnt know what I wanted. Until today when I rode in a car with koni's and OTS eibach springs.

I want to run koni yellows, with GC's, and FCM mounts.

GC, and koni, and FCM both make NA and NB versions of their product, should I get NB versions for everything?

Im thinking koni yellows with no revalve
500/300 GC's
FCM upper mounts and bumps.

This should put me at about $1150 for suspension which all has a lifetime warranty. Combined with an RB FSB setup I think this setup should be pretty solid.

[xjdesertfox]

Just a simple update. Pictures from last weekend. And tomorrow I'm giving moti my deposit for a bar.

Our friend flipped his car on mulholland, opened my eyes to why I need a bar.

[adamvanxxx]

Daamn

[stormin'norman]

Our friend flipped his car on mulholland, opened my eyes to why I shouldn't drive like a high school clown on the streets out to prove something and am now saving for track days.

fixed for you

[xjdesertfox]

fixed for you

i dont see anything wrong with running the canyons, its his own dumbass fault for what happened. We had a serious conversation with him prior to going up the mountain that he should drive within his and his car's limits.

If you take note of mine and the other two cars, we were driving well within our limits, and always do so, for our cars we were just cruising up the mountain...

[stormin'norman]

If you take note of mine and the other two cars, we were driving well within our limits, and always do so, for our cars we were just cruising up the mountain...

Lol fair enough. He must have ran out of car and skill. Hopefully a good lesson. I still support saving money for track days!

[I<3flippyheadlights]

Shit is he ok? His car looked much more..... erratic compared to the other ones in the video.

[xjdesertfox]

He's fine aside from a scraped up arm that flew out the window when he rolled.

What actually caused the roll was him trying to avoid the inner gutter on the turn and he then understeered into the wall that flipped him over.

[Blackbird]

$1k? I had a half-cage (main hoop back, legal sized tubing, welded in) fabbed for $350. Are you doing a full cage or just a roll bar with lots of look-cool crap, hype and overpricing added to it? Again, I mean no offense (to both parties), but I can't justify paying that much for just a roll bar that has some fancy gusseting and nothing else that makes it better than any other roll bar, no matter how nice it looks. A grand is full cage territory. Just food for thought. If you are indeed going full cage, I will take that back. lol

No offense taken, because there's no reason to take offense from this kind of commentary.
Every now and then someone will post about how overpriced this and that is and how they got their 12 point chromoly cage fully TIG welded by the hand of god himself for $895 including materials.

Maybe DOM tubing is growing in FL on trees in your neighbourhood and labor is free, best of luck trying to get any remotely decent cage done for $1K.
The ones I've seen that were done so far on a budget of under $2K were complete piles that I would touch with a 10 ft pole.
Guys around here thinking they got the deal of their lives doing a cage for $1200 when any fabricator that has a clue sees a death trap.
YMMV, I'll try hard to say no more.

Moti

[xjdesertfox]

moti now has my money and I'm waiting and excited! Its not anything special, but its something that i've wanted for awhile.

[ThatWhiteNA]

Glad to see you're finally getting the roll bar, man!

And Moti, I was harsh (and loose) with my comments. A hard day at the office is easily let out on the internet. I have a lot of respect for your work and would probably pony up the cash for your services if I had it... and lived closer, of course. My apologies.

[psulja]

Wow that's crazy about the Celica flipping, but you can kind of see in the video that he was never really in control of the car and was having a tough time trying to keep up while the other cars looked quite composed.