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    2001 Miata won't start after driving: Diagnosis help

    So my friend has an '01 with the big FFS kit installed. Eaton MP62, 5,6 injector, fuel rail, walboro 190? pump. Since the install, he's always had some issues, high idle, running rough, etc. Such is the way of modification. We've slowly ironed out a lot of the wrinkles but this last one has been giving me hell.

    When the car is cold, it'll start up just fine, the idle's still a little higher than it should be, but not terrible. After driving normally for 10-15 minutes, and turning the car off. you can not get it to fire up. It will turn over, but not crank. It does not cut off while driving.

    Main relay, fuel pump relay, cam sensor, and crank sensor are all brand new. What is the next thing to check? It has to be spark or fuel related correct?

    Guess I could check the coil pack/ pull the plugs and look for spark on all cylinders. Anything else that could heat soak and kill the car?

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    Bump?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Demon I Am View Post
    Guess I could check the coil pack/ pull the plugs and look for spark on all cylinders. Anything else that could heat soak and kill the car?

    Answered your own question. Can't really add much without more info. What DOESN'T it have when this happens? Fuel, spark, or air?

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    The "brushes" in the starter? When they are going out it will make warm/hot starts difficult. Had similar issue but now it happens even on cold starts.
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    if it is related to the FFS kit I know that Tom@FFS gives the best support.

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    Could it be a faulty relay that does not function when hot?

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    Tony, I am confused by this:

    Quote Originally Posted by Demon I Am View Post
    It will turn over, but not crank.
    Does the starter motor crank the engine or not?

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    Engine turns over "rarrarararaarar"
    will not crank (fire) "Vroom"

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    Hahaha, that was a hell of an explanation! I was thinking of issues with starter motor and/or solenoid heatsoak, but I am wrong.

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    If you have all the replaced parts put the OEs back on and restart your diag.. With some aftermarket parts you might be introducing your own problem.

    Go back to scratch and see if there is no spark ( use an adjustable kV tester and wind it out to 25-30). Needs to be a blue-white arc. Not red. Is the fuel aerated (read in to this boiled) in the fuel rail. Bubbles in the release line. Are the injectors pulsing (getting the signal). Noid light. All can be checked with low cost tools from Harbor Freight.

    If you see nothing or something on one of the cheap tools check a known good running car and see if it passed the test. If not bad tool. If so. closing in.

    Two or four-channel scopes are my go to with problem childs. But one real quick question. What does the security light do when it will not crank?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Slampen View Post
    if it is related to the FFS kit I know that Tom@FFS gives the best support.
    I second that.

    He is almost always available when it comes to FFS.

    BTW is the car actually overheating?
    Last edited by mx54life; 09-21-2016 at 04:04 AM.
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