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    6,000 rpm - mere mortals would shift Greasemonkey2000's Avatar
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    Cool The 'I told you'd be back' build of Misfire, my NB2 with F1 inspiration

    I know what some of you are thinking....'I knew you would be back' or 'that didn't take long' or even 'this guy again'...I can understand any of these thoughts.

    The truth is I missed having a roadster far too much and Shelby, my '03 Mustang GT, just wasn't holding my interest enough to keep me from making my way to various automobile listing sites and searching for used Miata's.

    So it was only logical that I give in and get another roadster. When I decided I had to part out Warbird I made up my mind that the next Miata would have be a second(NB2) or third(NC) generation and it also would have to have some sort of forced induction, preferably a supercharger.

    It really wasn't so much a plan as it was just a causal browsing of used Miata's for sell when I came across a 2001 Mazda Miata in Austin, Tx that was listed to have approx. 104k miles, a supercharger, aftermarket clutch and aftermarket exhaust. There was only one picture and it looked to be one done for a dealership.

    I then sent a text asking for more pictures and received them fairly promptly. We exchanged a few more text messages and ended up speaking on the phone and said I would come check it out that day and of course I was told that I had better hurry because there had been many inquiries about it.

    The wife and I went to Texas Autoplex(go see Behzad if they have something you are interested in!) in Austin and checked it out and took it for a test drive. The first time I heard the supercharger whine I was ecstatic! Sadly enough I had never been in a forced induction equipped Miata before, much less drove one.

    While the power difference from the meager m45 was a noticeable, and welcome, difference from the mostly stock NA8 power-plant of Warbird's I was used to...it wasn't huge difference. In fact I could see how some one that had never driven a stock Miata before could mistakenly think that all Miata's are 'this quick' because it is just enough power to keep you intrigued but not so much that it is a handful.

    The test drive was uneventful except for a set of black tire marks that was left in a parking lot when trying to establish, definitively, if it had a LSD or not because when I called Mazda it was showing to be a base model with no additional options but they said sometimes they get added 'afterwards' or something like that.

    Unfortunately I couldn't take it home as the bank didn't wrap things up but Behzad said he would hold it for me till Monday with no deposit. A long story short the bank didn't get everything taken care of until Thursday so that evening I went back to Austin where Behzad was kind enough to wait for me 30 minutes after their normal business hours to finalize everything.

    Well enough words for now...let's get to some pictures. I just took these, so this is 'as is' from the dealer because I wanted to take pics of it as I bought it before I clean it up or remove anything.









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    Look at all dem custom parts bro!


    So if it is carbon Kevlar will it stop a bullet?


    Oh look the gauges are waving at you!

    'Paging Revlimiter'

    Hey these look familiar!


    Cutting edge technology...

    ....circa 2000.


    So here is a quick run down on what parts it currently has and I have identified:

    Exterior:
    -mesh grille(will be removed)
    -'chrome' fuel door(will be replaced)
    -OEM fog lights(that don't currently function)
    -OEM spoiler(will be removed eventually, for something else)
    -OEM side skirts

    Interior:
    -carbon Kevlar overlay(will DEFINITELY come off)
    -various 'chrome' accents(will DEFINITELY come off)
    -aftermarket gauges(will be replaced with Revlimiter gauges of course)
    -chrome gauge rings(will be removed)
    -aftermarket alarm(will be staying)
    -Harddog Single hoop roll bar(it MAY stay or get replaced with another roll bar)
    -'custom' wind screen(will be removed)
    -'custom' speakers mounted on the roll bar(will be removed)

    Suspension:
    -KYB Accel-G struts w/ lowering springs(will be replaced with coilovers)
    -Racing Beat front sway bar w/ brace(will probably be staying unless it isn't the tubular sway)

    Engine:
    -m45(will probably stay)
    -DDM(?) intake box(will probably stay)
    -Track Dog Racing intercooler kit(will stay as long as it stays FI)
    -Track Dog Racing crank overlay(will stay if m45 stays)
    -Track Dog Racing header blanket(will probably be replaced with another one)
    -aftermarket header of unknown brand(probably stay)
    -Track Dog Racing oil psi kit(fixed or replaced)
    -hood struts(staying)
    -non-adjustable Power Card(will be replaced with a ms3 more than likely)
    -Racing Beat Power Pulse Twin Tip muffler(probably replaced with a RB dual outlet)

    Transmission:
    -aftermarket clutch of unknown brand(replaced in time)

    Chassis:
    -stock(that will change)


    Overall I am very happy with the purchase. As usual I was looking at parts before I even picked up the NB2 but it seemed like I was just recreating Warbird that isn't something I want to do.

    So I started thinking harder about the car at hand and I thought about the first time I heard that supercharger whine from the driver seat and it reminded me of a Formula 1 car. I am no means trying to compare it in overall terms but that sound....don't believe me just listen to a few F1 clips from YouTube and then some clips of m45/mp62 equipped Miata's and you will hear what I am talking about.

    No sooner than I thought about that, I was looking on a Miata forums for sale section and there was a Sparco that looked like it came out of and or belonged in a F1 car and that is when I decided that a F1 inspired build would be pretty cool and allow me to use some of the aviation inspirations Warbird had while still being something 'entirely different'. On the other hand I am not a F1 enthusiast by far BUT they are the cutting edge of racing technology so what about them isn't worth emulating.

    How far I will take this idea...I really can't say but I PLAN on the interior being more modest this time around and centered on being purposeful while still being aesthetically pleasing. My immediate plans are to remove all the items I don't care for, clean it up and do a tune up.

    I am not sure where I will go from there. I definitely need to get a wideband to verify AFR's and will go ahead and get a boost gauge as well...these will probably be AEM analog units with custom Revlimiter faces.

    I want to do 15x10 6UL wheels with 245 RS4's this time around since they will fit under the 'stock fenders' on a NB and I LOVED the 225 RS3's I used previously.

    I think I will also give Meister R(I already know some of you that will talk trash about them but the shining UK reviews has me curious) the opportunity to provide some adjustable coilovers and see what I think in comparison to the FEAL 441 Road Race and milder Fat Cat Motorsports 2040 coilovers I had on Warbird.

    I may get some....uh hum...Xida's IF I find a good deal on a used set or new from a individual. This is one product I don't care to buy new directly from 949 Racing, for my own personal reasons I'd rather not get into. Don't get me wrong I have bought parts from them and will buy more...just not the Xida's.

    I also hope/want/plan to do some aero that is both purposeful/functional and some that will be mostly for aesthetics but with a purposeful/functional look, lol.

    Really glad to be back in a roadster and I know I can't find a better group of enthusiast then fellow Miata/MX5 owners!
    Last edited by Greasemonkey2000; 08-12-2017 at 10:13 PM.
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    First one to post here! Welcome back into a proper car (and no, it didn't take long).
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    Welcome back. Looks like a solid enough NB starting point. Wish you still had flippy lights though


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    Welcome back mate This seemed fitting enough for your return; from Warbird to the new project NB:

    "The customer takes the car home and, of course, takes the family for a ride, shows it to their neighbors and friends. Just before retiring to bed, you stop for one last look, even say "goodnight" to the car, or maybe even sit in the car one last time.

    On your daily route, you start to think about more challenging roads...or new routes to spend more time with the car.

    On your first out of town trip, you discover other aspects of the car's personality that you didn't realize on your daily route. You discover the depth of the car more and more, as days, months, and the years go by.

    Of course, even with the most prolonged driver-car relationship, there comes a time when the owner has to part with the car. You part with fond memories, which you will treasure for a long, long time.

    And further down the road, the customer seeks out and finds the same model, buys it again and restores it"


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    MiataPalooza 2017 presents the "The Miata Formally Known as Warbird"


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    Saw the news via IG, glad you are back Chad! Car looks like a nice solid base to build upon, pretty sure this is going to be as good as Warbird, if not even better!

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    Quote Originally Posted by chiefmg View Post
    First one to post here! Welcome back into a proper car (and no, it didn't take long).
    Thanks Mike! It feels great!!

    Quote Originally Posted by Paul B View Post
    Welcome back. Looks like a solid enough NB starting point. Wish you still had flippy lights though
    Thank you Paul! NA's are fantastic but wanted to try another gen. this time around, even though I had a nb1 before Warbird I didn't get far with it before selling it.

    Quote Originally Posted by BRGNA8 View Post
    Welcome back mate This seemed fitting enough for your return; from Warbird to the new project NB:

    "The customer takes the car home and, of course, takes the family for a ride, shows it to their neighbors and friends. Just before retiring to bed, you stop for one last look, even say "goodnight" to the car, or maybe even sit in the car one last time.

    On your daily route, you start to think about more challenging roads...or new routes to spend more time with the car.

    On your first out of town trip, you discover other aspects of the car's personality that you didn't realize on your daily route. You discover the depth of the car more and more, as days, months, and the years go by.

    Of course, even with the most prolonged driver-car relationship, there comes a time when the owner has to part with the car. You part with fond memories, which you will treasure for a long, long time.

    And further down the road, the customer seeks out and finds the same model, buys it again and restores it"


    -Tom Matano, AKA Mr Miata.
    Thanks Steve! Very true words!

    Quote Originally Posted by MiataQuest View Post
    MiataPalooza 2017 presents the "The Miata Formally Known as Warbird"
    Thanks for the pic Rene! Really glad Robert made it there with the 97M, I look forward to his build progress!

    Quote Originally Posted by HarryB View Post
    Saw the news via IG, glad you are back Chad! Car looks like a nice solid base to build upon, pretty sure this is going to be as good as Warbird, if not even better!
    Thank you very much for the kind words, Harry!
    '01 NB2 aka MisF1re: http://mazdaroadster.net/showthread....218#post207218
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    04-09-17:On the way back from work today I noticed a 'miss' while accelerating. Now this wasn't the first time I noticed it, on the highway at 70+mph it was there too. I figured it was the 'new spark plugs' the dealer said they put and I had no doubt they were no the proper plugs given its forced induction setup.

    This time it was much more evident and got worse the last 0.5 mile or so before I arrived back home. I was fairly confident the plugs were to blame as it reminded me of an issue I had with my '04 SRT4 when a plug was going.

    So instead of checking the fault codes with the obdII dongle and Torque app I just went ahead and found out what plugs I needed from Track Dog Racing's site, which were NGK V Power #BKR6E that are a one step colder plug and they recommended 0.033'' as a starting point for forced induction setup.

    Picked up at set from a local auto parts store along with some dielectric grease since I wasn't sure if I still had any.


    Pulled the old/new plugs and sure enough the dealer did indeed change them but just as I suspected they were oem NGK plugs #BKR5E gapped at 0.04''.

    I'm no expert in reading plugs but from what I read the discoloration on the strap near the weld means the plug is 'too hot', which is exactly what I figured.

    I gapped the new NGK BKR6E plugs at 0.033'' per Track Dog Racing's online recommendation, put some anti seize on the threads and some dielectric on the tip and installed them and torqued them to 17 ft/lbs. Cleaned up the dirty plug wires while I was there.


    After taking the last pic I started thinking that I may just have something to 'spruce' up the engine bay. So I went into the garage and sure enough look what was in its original box left over from Warbird...

    ...a Project G Precision Series 1.1 oil cap!

    I decided to go ahead and check the fault codes with the Bluetooth obdII dongle and Torque app and sure enough the most recent fault code was a misfire for cylinder #2. It had three others....one was for a o2 sensor...the heating circuit and the other two...well I can't recall.

    Took her for a spin and sure enough the 'miss' was gone under all conditions/speeds! Thank goodness it was a easy fix! With just a little more day light and went ahead and uncluttered the roll bar...


    ....look how much that junk weighed...

    ...about 10lbs!!

    Till next time 'boys and girls'!
    '01 NB2 aka MisF1re: http://mazdaroadster.net/showthread....218#post207218
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    04-13-17: Well the NGK BKR6E plugs gapped at 0.033'' fixed the misfire issue for about a day. This time the misfire was so bad it threw it into limp mode, so I pulled the codes which was a P0340(cam sensor) and P0302(cylinder 2 misfire). After some research it seems that the cause could be coil packs, cam sensor, crank sensor or any combination of these.

    Since the cylinder 2 misfire had appeared the most and is one of the cylinders with the coilpack directly on and the coilpacks had markings like they were from a salvage yard, I decided to try new coilpacks. I now throwing parts/money at a car to try and fix a car/problem isn't the smartest approach. Honestly if I had/have to replace all three then I count it as preventative maintenance.

    Ordered a set of Beck/Arnley coilpacks from Rock Auto for about $82 shipped(had a 5% discount code so was $86) for a pair which was cheaper than one brand new coilpack from a Mazda specific parts supplier. I know how some feel about buying non-oem replacement parts but Beck/Arnley is a well known parts manufacturer. We will see if this was a wise choice.

    Received the coilpacks just four days from ordering them....


    ...you can see the markings I was referring too on the old ones...


    ....the new Back/Arnley coilpacks installed.



    Started it up and it didn't sound right and quickly found a vacuum line coming of the intake manifold was broke, I think I leaned on it, so after fixing that it sounded fine, yay! My enthusiasm faded quickly as I could tell when pulling out of the drive way that the issue was still present and I only went maybe 50ft before trying to turn around and it died twice before getting it back in my driveway. Well that sucks.

    I had previously read on another thread about another enthusiast(Cameron) with a FFS equipped NB with a similar issue but his turned out to be frayed wires(making contact with a belt/tensioner) but I checked mine and while the plastic wire loom had a place where it was damaged, the wires look to be fine.

    After ordering the coilpacks I was 'thinking out loud' via email with Pat aka patsmx5 and he was kind enough to offer a spare cam and crank sensor for diagnostic purposes. Within 45 minutes of him offering he had a tracking number for me! People like Pat is why this community is so great. So those should be here by tomorrow but I won't be able to get to trying each out until Sunday. I REALLY hope it is the cam sensor(it did have a code for it after all) since it is one bolt and takes a few minutes to swap since it is on top of the valve cover(99-00 on the front, 01-05 on the rear).

    I also picked up a piece to match my Project G Precision Series oil cap....


    ....Project G Precision Series oil dipstick(currently out of production) intended for a broken oil dipstick. If you look at one of the pics above you will see mine is not broken, which is crazy because my last two Miata's it broke. So I will just have to get one that is already broken to use this beauty.

    Thanks to Eli aka Hyper for selling/shipping it to me when he could have sold it locally at the MiataPalooza event but I had contacted him prior to the event but hadn't finalized everything so thanks again Eli!
    '01 NB2 aka MisF1re: http://mazdaroadster.net/showthread....218#post207218
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    To save you the trouble of finding a broken dipstick, I would gladly take that Project-G dipstick handle off your hands.

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    @JamieH: I appreciate your offer. I saw tsingson aka Anthony and you were about to duke it out for it so I figured I should diffuse the situation by sending the money to Eli.

    For the record(and so no one feels they got the short end of the stick) I sent Eli a pm on m.net on the the 6th at around 2pm and he got back to me the next morning around 7am and I didn't realize he had gotten back to me until I saw he had posted it in the miatapalooza thread and I checked my pms. I think it says alot about Eli's character that he went ahead and sold it to me even though it was more effort on his part.
    '01 NB2 aka MisF1re: http://mazdaroadster.net/showthread....218#post207218
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    Misfire can be SO many things. That was one of the problems that plagued my supercharger install on Sharka. I also used the powercard. Probably pretty similar setups.

    If I remember right, the EGR can cause the ECU to set a misfire code. At least it could on the NA OBDII ECU. You might take apart the EGR system and clean it very very well.

    Crap injectors can also contribute. I'm a big fan of Redline's injector cleaner. It's nothing as good as known, fresh injectors, but it can help.

    Closing the plug gap down even as far as .025 can help too.

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    He didn't even reply to any of my PMs so I figured it was gone. Oh well, broken dipstick handle for me.

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    Oh, that reminds me. The NB dipstick is longer than the NA one. I just found this out a couple days ago. A friend of mine is doing a T-belt service on a 90K '00 NB, and his hand slipped off the VC while he was looking at something else, and he inadvertently snapped the dipstick handle. Anyways, he had a spare NA handle sitting around and thought he might be able to use it. I think he said it was about a half inch shorter.

    So the both of ya should be mindful of that.

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    I am so sorry tsingson. I was at Miatapalooza having a great time with my friends and family, texting and replying was very difficult at the time due so much beer consumption plus to be honest Chad (Greasemonkey) was the very first person to inquire about the Project G dipstick. I honestly acted in good faith and I sincerely apologize if I caused any harm by not replying to your private message.

    To Chad:

    I hope you enjoy your new part. I also have some other parts I will be selling for your supercharged NB that came off my NB, if interested please contact me.

    Also for the misfire, try blocking the EGR (the pipe going to the intake manifold.) and either check the PCV valve it may be leaking at idle, or design a VTA catch can. It will dramatically improve and possibly revolve the misfire issues you have with the car.

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