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    Quote Originally Posted by Agent☣Orange View Post
    Crashing and crunching are very harsh words. Yes, see how your new fluid reacts and it may take a couple thousand miles.
    Thousands of mile? Let's hope not. And yes, it has been easy to have a very violent response to shifting from 1st to 2nd. Think good thoughts.

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    Road trip!

    My wife is bugging me to take her for a long road trip in the Miata. She's a good girl.

    I think a stop at Moss Motors in Goleta will be a part of the excursion.......

    We'll see how the gear box responds to the new oil then, now won't we?

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    This hyperbole is starting to feel kind of creepy. We’ve gone from tranny fluid to an objectified wife.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Agent☣Orange View Post
    This hyperbole is starting to feel kind of creepy. We’ve gone from tranny fluid to an objectified wife.
    I don't know what you are talking about. Objectified wife my ass. Shall we avoid getting personal here? I would have expected more from a moderator.

    And there was no hyperbole in my description of the noises my trans made with the old oil.

    For those who care, I think the synthetic magic oil is a significant improvement. Early days, still.

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    I know, right? It’s like they let anybody in here nowadays.


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    6sp still crashing going into 2nd

    Sorry, it sounds like crashing to me!

    No, the new oil has not cured the trans.

    The only way to have a near silent 1st to 2nd shift, and no sound going into 3rd, is to hold the clutch hard against the floor for way too long, and slowly draw the lever back. And that is not always successful. It certainly is not behaving as it should.

    In my past experience with sporty cars and manual transmissions, it seems to me that the clutch pedal need not be all the way down to release the clutch and to perform a smooth shift. I had three MR2s and each could be shifted as fast as my foot and hand could do it.

    There is adjustment on the shift pedal under the dash? I stuck my head down there and swore a blue streak; that is mighty inaccessible. I foresee having to pull the driver's seat out so that I can lie on my back to do the work.

    I have viewed a few youtube videos ostensibly on the subject, but they were not good examples of the type.

    Has anyone here got good experience adjusting the rod between the pedal and master cylinder that resulted in more complete disengagement of the clutch?

    I'm starting to worry....
    Last edited by kevinharrop; 11-19-2017 at 10:20 PM.

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    Kevin, between worrying about the perfect shift compared to your previous cars, I’ve often found it less stressful to lower my expectations, pay for new synchros or move to a different platform.

    A good tranny oil needs a few thousand miles to work but regardless, I think you should sell your Miata, buy another Toyota and work from your base of experience.


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    Thanks for the advice, I'll stick with the Miata. This 6 sp is simply not performing as it should, and I'll continue to look for a good solution.

    Are you suggesting that replacing the synchros is the solution?

    And does it really take thousands of miles for the oil to make a difference? I have trouble seeing that.
    Last edited by kevinharrop; 11-19-2017 at 10:53 PM.

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    Well, no. Not the first thing I’d do. I’m preaching acceptance more than solutions. For instance, every morning, when I start my current car, it shakes the whole car and sputters to life like I have an obnoxious cam which I don’t. Even my dentures fall out and I don’t even wear dentures. It takes a few miles before it smooths out. From a nostalgic perspective, I enjoy every moment of that obnoxiousness because I love its character.

    Fill your tranny with some good Amsoil, RedLine or Motorcraft and be patient. If you’re seeking Formula 1 performance a minute later, you’ll be disappointed but if you are patient, your Miata will reward you.

    *after new synchros.


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    And you don't think the clutch is out of adjustment? Because that now seems a likely villain to me.

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    Clutch master cylinder rod/pedal can be adjusted. Stick your head under the dash; pretty straightforward to do so. Also look for possible clutch cylinder leaks

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    Clutch hydraulics. Replace them.

    Then open another thread about the same subject. Again.

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    949 has an inexpensive kit http://949racing.com/miata-clutch-HOK.aspx

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    Our site's sponsor, Goodwin Racing, also offers a comprehensive kit for clutch hydraulics. It is on sale!

    http://www.good-win-racing.com/Mazda...t/61-1836.html

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    Ah, I didn't know Goodwin has a kit

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