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    Exclamation Classified Rules - MUST READ BEFORE POSTING ITEMS FOR SALE

    CLASSIFIED AD RULES

    !! ATTENTION COMMERCIAL ADVERTISERS !!


    If you intend on advertising anything on this forum, whatsoever, you are required to first contact the site Admin. If you own a business, and want to run sales on this site via posting ads or group buy threads, you will need to follow the rules. Any Shops, Stores, Distributors, Group Buys posted without being first authorized will see your account get terminated, and IP address banned.


    The MazdaRoadster Marketplace is a great place to get a good deal on many items for our Miatas. We provide these classified forums to our members as a benefit of MazdaRoadster membership. We have some common-sense rules outlined in the rules that we expect everyone to follow.

    Anyone who does not comply with these rules will be warned and possibly banned from the classifieds or from MazdaRoadster. For your safety and the safety of others, please comply with the Classifieds rules and read the buyers advice at the end of the rules outlined. If you see anything suspicious or have a questionable sale sent to you via PM, please push the report a post button or contact a moderator.

    MazdaRoadster.net assumes no ownership or risk in your purchases in the Classifieds - the transaction is between you and the seller.

    The Ad Process: BUYERS MUST CONTACT SELLERS in the sellers thread that you want to buy the item and then PM the seller.

    This has historically been a problematic and unfortunate mess on other forums however we are determined to make MiataRoadster.net classifieds more efficient, positive and enjoyable for everyone involved.

    Buyers and Sellers will now be able to reply in the for sale threads to indicate any updates to their ads or answer questions that have been addressed to them. The site-wide time limit on editing the original and subsequent posts still applies.


    ** ETIQUETTE in the Classifieds section **

    - The Classifieds section is a FREE service provided by MazdaRoadster.net for our members. The purpose of this section of the forum is to support advertising private-party member-to-member transactions for Miata-related items. Examples include seats, tire and wheel sets, body pieces, suspension, etc.

    - The Classifieds section is NOT a forum for bashing, flaming, or thread-crapping on what is being offered, it's price, or who it is that's offering it. Take that to PM if you have a legitimate issue as a potential buyer! Don't Troll!

    - If you want to discuss or learn more about some type of item you see in the Classifieds section, please post your questions and comments in the proper discussion forum, and NOT in that persons ad.
    For example; if you wondered about a Ram-Air Intake offered in the Classifieds section - you would post your questions in section called "N/A BREATHING • Intake and Exhaust" to learn more or discuss the advantages/disadvantages of having it.

    - No Flaming, No bashing, No trolling, No price policing etc. This type of behavior is NOT tolerated and is subject to instant deletion without warning!! If your reply to an ad is not directly inquiring about the product you wish to purchase it may be removed without notice. Just as it is everywhere else on the forum. So please be respectful of your fellow members.


    Rules for Sellers

    1. YOU MUST LIST YOUR ASKING PRICE
    Otherwise your thread may be locked or removed without warning. Please do not PM the moderator to re-open your thread if it is closed because you did not post a price, you must re-post the item from scratch.

    2. YOU MUST SHOW AT LEAST ONE PHOTO OF THE ITEM
    This is to establish that you actually have the item, and also that members can judge for themselves the condition of the item for sale. You must use your own photo showing your own part, not someone else's photo of an item "just like" the one you're selling.

    3. LOCATION, LOCATION, LOCATION
    You must either include a location in your ad, or have it listed in your profile!
    We highly recommend use of the 'location' title prefix (state code) when you post your thread to allow members to easily search for local / nearby sale items. ie; (FL), (TX), (CA), (GA) etc. Also you can update your profile in the "settings" tab so that members can see your location.

    4. AUCTION LINKS ARE NOT PERMITTED,
    You are NOT allowed to post off-forum ads or ads likely to be of interest in the For sale section, such as; Yahoo Auctions, eBay, Craigslist, Scoomer Auctions, U-Bid, etc.
    However, you can post an interest thread in the main forums appropriate section in case you feel some members "may" be interested, or for a reference or just to chat about a part you have found that is of interest.
    NO Commercial Business ads without Admin consent!

    5. DO NOT SPAM WITH MULTIPLE THREADS.
    No spamming multiple sections of our forum or our classifieds sections with your for sale items. This means pick one and only one classified section to post your item for sale in, even if it possibly pertains to several Miata models. You can however place URL links to posted classified ads, or partouts from our forum in your profile or signature, that is fine on our forum.

    6. NO COMMERCIAL SALES
    No vendors, dealers, brokers or service providers of any kind may post either individual or group buy items for sale here without the Administrator's approval. If you acquire items in quantity of the same item with the intent of offering them for resale here, you are considered a dealer under this rule. Please get with the site admin if you wish to sell on here as a sponsor. Your threads WILL get removed without warning!

    7. YOU MUST HAVE PRIVATE MESSAGING ENABLED
    People interested in purchasing must be able to contact you via PM, email or phone.

    8. "BUMPING" & "RE-LISTING" RULES.
    You can push your thread up (bump) HOWEVER, * DO NOT * Bump your thread more than once per week!
    This rule is to allow fair visibility to all our members selling other items in the same forum as your item. If you ignore this rule the moderation staff reserves the right to lock your ad for a period of at least 1 week, or remove your ad completely if you continue to bump your own ad after you have had the ad locked previously.

    9. NO SELLING ITEMS FOR A "FRIEND"
    You must personally own and be accountable for the condition and delivery of the item for sale. If your "Friend" wants to sell his/her item they can register like everyone else and post their items for sale.

    10. PROHIBITED ITEMS
    On MazdaRoadster you CANNOT list for sale any of the following items in any section of our forum! Selling these items anywhere in the forum in the classifieds section or anywhere else on this forum will get you banned:

    A) NO bootlegged software, Music, Games, DVD sales. Anyone who knowingly buys or sells bootlegged (Warez) software, music, DVD's
    B) NO alcohol, tobacco, drugs, firearms, or any weapons sales.
    C) NO Pornographic (XXX) item sales.
    D) NO gift card sales.

    11. NO "TESTING THE WATERS" or "POSSIBLY FOR SALE" POSTS.
    Either you're selling the item or you're not. If you're not sure, don't post it here until you are ready. Please do your research on your asking price before posting the item for sale. If you want to make a "feeler" thread, you can do so in the "VALUE • What's this worth?" section of the forum. Located here ----> http://mazdaroadster.net/forumdisplay.php?92

    12. USE THE NA/NB/NC "PREFIX"
    Make use of the drop down menu tab if your item is generation specific.

    13. DO NOT POST YOUR ITEMS FOR SALE IN SOMEONE ELSE'S THREAD.
    This is considered thread crapping, it's just rude, and will get your post deleted instantly and without warning.

    14. UPDATE YOUR SOLD ITEMS
    To prevent time wasted by both buyers and yourself, PLEASE post follow-up posts to indicate the item has been "SOLD".


    MazdaRoadster.net reserves the right to remove ANY ad for ANY reason at ANY time! If your thread has been removed there is generally a reason! Site Staff will send you a PM as to why your ad has been removed.
    Last edited by Agent☣Orange; 07-12-2012 at 09:35 AM. Reason: Updated with iTrader info and new rules!

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    MIATA PART OUT RULES


    There are authorized vendors (our sponsors) that part out cars on this forum, and if you are looking for "specific" Miata parts, we highly recommend using the folks that help support this forum. Part-outs can now be posted in this "Classifieds" section of the forum, so please do not post your part out in the vehicles classifieds, and not local sections either, etc, etc.

    a) What if I just have a bunch of parts to sell? Yes you have come to the right place, if you want to list a bunch of parts from a part out, or just clearing out your garage that is perfectly fine in here.

    b) Multiple vehicle part-outs are NOT allowed .... it's a one time event meant for a Miata that is disabled due to accident or one you've bought to use major pieces on your own car and are selling the rest. Buying a car specifically to part it out here to turn a profit is reserved for the Miata Recycling vendors that pay sponsorship to keep this forum running! If you are interested in becoming a sponsor please contact the site Admin.

    c) All individual part sales and prices should be posted on the forum so we know no one is getting ripped off by sales of the same item to other members and there is no auction activity.

    d) Calling "dibs" ? , this is up to the seller who he/she wishes to sell to on here, and if they want to hold a part until the buyer has funds.

    e) Planning on buying a parts car and taking future orders to sell parts off it? Absolutely not allowed. If you can't support the purchase of the parts car for without the forum support, don't buy it or plan on pre-selling parts here.

    f) Miatas being parted out MUST be owned by YOU! That means, do not list a part-out for your friend's, uncle's, neighbor's, step-sister's, room mate's, mom's, dad's, cousin's, girlfriends's, auntie's, etc. No ifs ands, or buts! If they want to part out their own car they can list it here themselves just as well as you, and they can sell the parts like everyone else.

    Wheels For Sale

    It is strongly recommended you post the following information about any wheels being listed for sale on MazdaRoadster.net If you do not furnish this information, members will end up asking you these questions anyway, so please go ahead and include the appropriate details in your initial post.

    1) For all wheel sales, please post photographs of the wheels to give the buyer an idea of the condition of the wheels and to identify major blemishes. Wheels are one of the most likely items on a car to sustain damage, so we strongly encourage this action on the part of the seller to demonstrate the wheels for sale are in good shape.

    2) If you are selling OEM Miata wheels, please state the model & year Miata the wheels originally came on and style of the wheel.

    3) For aftermarket wheels, there are standard pieces of information to include:

    a) Manufacturer / Style
    b) Age and mileage on wheels and tires
    c) General condition and list of blemishes, bends, curb rash and scars
    d) Wheel specs (size, width, face finish, lip finish)
    e) Offset
    f) Disk fitment (and known big brake clearance if info is available)
    g) Bolt pattern (this normally will be 'for a Miata' but now that the NC Miata's use a 5 lug we have found this is not always the case)
    h) Asking price and if you will ship.
    i) Location of the wheels ie; city/state

    For tires please included (brand, size) and in what condition, mileage.

    4) DO NOT sell a wheel that does not fit Miata vehicles!!!

    5) Please don't bump your ads more than once per week. Want mpre views & hits? Use search "Tags" in your ad.

    Used Miatas For Sale

    1) Miatas may be offered for sale by all members, but no dealers are allowed unless your are a forum sponsor first.
    2) Provide pictures of the car and state the condition / mileage.
    3) Posting a vehicle for sale "for a friend" is not allowed. They can join and post it themselves.
    4) Please post the location (state) of the vehicle being sold in the title and (city/state) in the thread.
    5) You must post an asking price, no feeler threads in here!!

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    Advice for Buyers - Caveat Emptor

    Advice for Buyers - Caveat Emptor

    Please be cautious and use your common sense when buying something expensive from someone you don't know here on the forum. If something' seems too good to be true, question extensively before you buy. Many of these rules will also be helpful to sellers.

    Here are some easy-to-do tips that can at least help mitigate some of the risk. If you are personally uncomfortable asking for these items, we suggest you 'blame it on the rules' below to make it a safer transaction for all concerned:

    1) Review their threads, post counts, the users join date on the forum. Is this someone "known" in the community? Check their iTrader feedback.

    2) Ask for detailed pictures and condition description to be posted if not provided. Get full size, well lit images of the items and close ups of any blemishes to review before buying.

    3) Ask for a 'vouch' from another member for the seller or the item being sold if its of substantial value.

    4) Search on posts by sellers to see what they've bought/sold in the past. Were there any issues other people posted about? PM somebody else who bought something big from them in the past to see if it turned out OK.

    5) Do some research on the person using the information you have available. Have they been a member on forum long? Do they just sell stuff or do they really participate (so that people might know them better)? Did they post about having problems with the item they're now selling?

    6) Request contact information from the seller and test them where possible (get name, phone #s, physical and and email addresses) to make sure they work as a way to get in touch with them.

    7) Have someone else local to the seller on the forum check out the merchandise for you if it's a big/expensive item. Make sure it's what is claimed and in the described condition. If they'll do it, see if they will even see it get boxed up and shipped to you.

    8) Insist on carrying full insurance on fragile items that are shipped. Have the seller describe the way they will pack the item if you're really concerned; request 'before shipping' pictures to protect both of you. Ship items with companies that provide tracking capability for the package.

    9) Document your transaction publicly on the forum. If a seller insists on communicating only via PM or email be suspicious. If the seller does not post a 'item sold' once you've sent payment, we suggest that the buyer proactively post something like 'payment sent' on the forum so that if the seller has intentions of promising the item to multiple buyers and running off with their money that other buyers are alerted earlier. We suggest you 'quote' the original post of the seller so that their comments are captured and cannot be edited once sold to you.

    10) By using this forum and its classified ads section you agree that you the buyer or seller are using this system at your own risk, and do not hold MazdaRoadster.net responsible for any dealings in the classifieds ads.

    11) There is no guarantee that buyers or sellers are legitimate. We strongly recommend use of an escrow service, or Paypal as protection against fraudulent transactions.

    Please be respectful of all sellers, do NOT attack sellers on the forum if you don't like their asking price, if you don't like them then don't buy it!! If you want a lower price send them a PM.


    12) Commercial Sellers trying to "Loop-Hole" the Classifieds

    I have been receiving some messages from members regarding replies via PM from new members, or with low post counts, and/or low iTrader ratings.

    Private Sellers, If you have an item that someone is looking for in the WANTED section, please post a reply in the thread and if possible a photo of the item you are offering for sale.

    Buyers, If a seller insists on communicating only via PM or email be suspicious!!! Honest sellers will generally post a reply as they have nothing to hide. If a seller insists on communicating only via PM or email be suspicious! And don't forget we have "Sponsoring" vendors that sell used parts. Please support our vendors whenever possible, as without them we would not have the MOTM contests and other giveaways!
    Check with our Sponsors here ---> http://mazdaroadster.net/content.php?118-Sponsors


    ATTN: COMMERCIAL SELLERS, if you are a parts dealer and wish to offer items for sale in ANY of the Classified sections please contact site admin FIRST to become a sponsor. If any commercial entities are found selling to the member base and not a current sponsor you risk GETTING BANNED, and your IP Address will get banned as well. Don't risk getting booted over something so silly as this. Sponsorship here is very reasonable, and by supporting the community they will help support you.

    ALL MEMBERS are encouraged to report commercial vendors that are trying to loophole the system.

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    8) Insist on carrying full insurance on fragile/expensive items that are shipped. Have the seller describe the way they will pack the item if you're really concerned; request 'before shipping' pictures to protect both of you. Ship items with companies that provide tracking capability for the package.

    This works BOTH ways for sellers AND buyers.

    As a seller, you are responsible to package and ship the items you are selling. Your negligence to take precautions will reflect poorly on you and further transactions. You should not cut corners to save a couple of bucks and you need to COMMUNICATE this to the buyer.

    As a buyer, you should work with the seller to make the transaction as smooth as possible. DO NOT attempt to save money by using sketchy methods of shipping, skipping insurance, or using non-secure methods of payment transfer.

    Both the Buyer and the Seller should lay out their requirements to make the transaction safe and agreeable FOR BOTH PARTIES.

    IF you cheap out on anything during the transaction, expect to pay the price.

    Are you going to try to save $5 and risk losing $20? $50? $100? more?


    Be sure to document the transaction from your perspective.


    Transaction disputes among members will be dealt with swiftly and harshly if either party is found negligent.

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    Rules Updated!


    Please review the New Updated Rules for posting ads in the Classifieds section.

    We recently updated the rules due to the addition of member feedback on sales, and we also have opened up the Classifieds ads for open member replies.

    This means you can now post replies in the ads if you have questions for the sellers about the condition, shipping, and related questions.

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    TRADERS SECTION

    In the TRADES SECTION of the Forum, you may offer trades of Mazda related products for other Mazda Related products only unless otherwise noted by Admin.
    ------> http://mazdaroadster.net/forumdispla...TRADE-amp-FREE



    NOTE: Any trades that you arrange on our Message Boards are ENTIRELY AT YOUR OWN RISK and are SOLELY THE RESPONSIBILITY OF THE TRADERS. MazdaRoadster.net takes no responsibility for uncompleted, dishonored, damaged, falsely represented, lost or otherwise unsatisfactory trades for items. Furthermore, MazdaRoadster.net does not offer legal recourse, arbitration, or any other resolution to conflicts arising from the trades conducted on our Boards.

    There are a few more guidelines to note which are not included in the Forum rules at the top:

    1. It is against our rules to trade what is not in hand. Since you can not absolutely be guaranteed to get something, you can't offer it in good faith. You must have the item(s) that you are trading in your hand prior to posting. If you do not have an item in your hand -- such as from any upcoming sale or new item -- do not post a trade for it until you have received it (in hand). This rule applies to both trade Forums as well as to For Sale threads.

    2. Make sure you communicate each and every condition of your trade, describe the item thoroughly and honestly, and be fair in your offer. Also, make sure you understand all of this about the item(s) for which you are trading. Ask questions. Agree to all aspects of the trade from what for what, to when it will be sent, to how it will be sent, to how it will be packaged, to when feedback will be left. Have a reversal and return policy in case one or both parties are not satisfied with the item(s) they receive. Make sure you cover all your bases. Trade with the intent of making your trading partner a new friend!

    3. Check references carefully and diligently. Also research your trading partner, check their Feedback Topic. See if there is a good or bad trade history. Once that is done, set your conditions for the trade.

    4. As a general rule, no user should have more than two (2) trade Topics open at any one time in any Forum.

    5. If you don't like a trade offer that is posted, there is no need to hijack the Topic or flame the author. Just ignore it or simply post, "No thanks."

    Again, you should check the feedback of your trading partner thoroughly, and proceed with caution. You trade at your own risk and are solely responsible for the outcome.

    If a dispute arises, you must resolve it off of our Message Boards. There is no point in appealing to the Moderators or Administrators; we have no way of confirming or verifying condition or receipt or non-receipt of any items. Therefore, we cannot become arbiters or advocates for any trade. While we will not become involved in trade disputes, we will become involved in Board disputes. So please keep disputes off the Boards.

    Be honest, be clear, and be fair. Let's keep this a fun and safe place to trade and enjoy our hobbys.

    Thank you, and happy trading!

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    FOR SALE LISTINGS CHANGED !




    Due to the member feedback we have gone from a Panjo list base to the Original forum style ads

    Post for sale ads here -----> http://mazdaroadster.net/forumdispla...PARTS-FOR-SALE


    Please review the Original Rules Above (post #1) for posting ads in the Classifieds section.


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