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    Mazda MX-5/Alfa Spider (2015) first spy shots of the joint roadster project

    Mazda MX-5/Alfa Spider (2015) first spy shots of the joint roadster project



    You’re looking at what’s likely to be the driving enthusiast’s highlight of 2015: the first of two new rear-drive, two-seater sports cars wearing iconic badges: Mazda MX-5, and Alfa Romeo Spider. Mazda and Alfa are joining forces to create a shared-platform sports car, but each model will wear bespoke styling and be powered by different in-house engines.

    Pretty sure I’m actually looking at an old MX-5 that’s crashed…

    This current-gen MX-5 test mule is far from pretty, but ignore the masking-tape eye shadow around its RX-8 headlights and missing side skirts: this test hack is concealing the really important bit: powertrains. This car was spied tooling around Auburn Hills, Michigan – the home of Chrysler’s world headquarters.



    What was a Mazda doing testing in Chrysler’s back yard?

    Don’t be fooled by the Mazda suit – this is a joint project. Alfa Romeo is part of the Chrysler family – Chrysler is in charge of Alfa’s Fiat Group overlords. So, it’s likely that under the red herring Mazda body, this car is running the Alfa Romeo 4C supercar’s powertrain, rotated through 180 degrees to power the new Alfa Spider.

    Back with a bang then, the new Alfa Spider?



    With a turbocharged 1.7-litre four-pot developing 237bhp, we should say so. That VW Golf GTI-besting output is sent to the rear wheels via the 4C’s dual-clutch ‘TCT’ paddleshift gearbox. Thanks to Mazda’s ‘SkyActiv’ chassis, the car’s kerbweight should be reassuringly low – though not as featherweight as the carbonfibre 4C.

    What’s the story with the Mazda MX-5?



    Mazda engineers are targeting a substantial weight saving for the new MX-5, thanks to the SkyActiv philosophy. The current 6 saloon and new 3 hatchback have managed to shave around 100kg from the kerbweights of their predecessors, but that’ll be a taller order for the MX-5, which comes in at around 1150kg in its current guise.

    It’ll offer a manual gearbox only in the UK – Mazda admits the short-lived auto didn’t fit with the car’s enthusiast-pleasing ethos in the UK market, which sucks up 50% of European MX-5 sales – and 10% of the worldwide total. An automatic is still on the cards for the American market, though. As per the current MX-5, folding hard-top and conventional canvas-roofed roadster bodystyles will be available, with the entry-level model purported to cost less than Ł20,000.

    What about a hot Mazda MX-5 MPS to scare Z4s and Boxsters?



    Don’t hold your breath. With Hiroshima’s resources concentrated on trimming grams and reducing CO2 via the SkyActiv policy, Mazda’s shying away from high-powered sporty models for the time being – though insiders admit they’d love to see a return for the performance-orientated MPS range. Right now, it’s a no-go, and it’s the fault of the SkyActiv engines themselves. Thanks to their ultra-high compression ratios – and the resultant lack of easily tuneable turbochargers – Mazda hasn’t got a suitable brawny engine available to power hot 2s, 3s, 6s and MX-5s. Its Alfa Spider sister, on the other hand, with 237bhp on hand from its blown 4C engine, could be the Italian-styled enemy within for the new MX-5. We’ll find out in 2015.

    source: http://www.carmagazine.co.uk/Secret-...dster-project/
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    Grrrrr, no power? We want a performance oriented MX-5, not a Green Stig/Electric/Co2 friendly/SLOW MX-5. That faster it goes, the more likely I will buy one damn it.
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    no Auto for UK?... Good.

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    4x100 wheels...weight savings!

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    Oh and the exposed sill structure looks pretty beefy. HTS structure?

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    Quote Originally Posted by kung fu jesus View Post
    4x100 wheels...weight savings!
    Yes............. lightweight body, plus engine swap from (NC) with turbo = much win!


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    900kg.
    2.0 and 2.5 from Mazda 3/6. Tuned to 170hp and 215hp.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slampen View Post
    900kg.
    2.0 and 2.5 from Mazda 3/6. Tuned to 170hp and 215hp.

    I would love to take the motor from the Mazdaspeed3 and put it in a Miata, any Miata!! hahhahaa

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    $5 says they'll offer the SkyActiv diesel in Europe.

    Part of me wants to see it rotary powered.
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    But then it would be named the RX-5. Not that it would be a bad thing at all. I've always wished for one too.

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    This is stupid. All this waiting and guessing. It's driving me crazy!

    Awd turbo from the cx7

    Or ms6

    They can figure something out. Hell look at "ecoboost". It's earth friendly right? Lol

    I know they are pushing for more rwd platforms. Hope it stays manual.

    Fm, gwr, and tdr, moti, emilio, for power and handling and Adam (revlimiter.net) for inside aesthetics, THEY should help mazda design it.
    Serious.

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    I just hope they don't put a crappy Chrysler engine in it lol. I'd love to see it be sub 2300lbs and around 180 hp. They should also bring back the MSM and offer a version with a turbo.

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    I am pretty sure they have stated it will be turbo, but a smaller engine. Hopefully they make a "Mazdaspeed" edition that has a bigger motor that is also boosted

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    Quote Originally Posted by kung fu jesus View Post
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    Good eyes!!!!!!

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