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    Mazda RX-7 Returns in 2017 with 450-hp Turbo Rotary




    Next-generation RX-7 gets turbo power hike, to arrive in May 2017 on Mazda rotary's 50TH birthday


    We reported recently that Mazda was developing a new turbo-less 300hp rotary powertrain for its next-generation RX-7 due in 2017. New information from a source close to Mazda tells us that the company is now focusing its R&D efforts on a radical twin-scroll turbocharged rotary powerplant rumoured to develop upwards of 450hp.

    Rotary diehards would, of course, remember that Mazda's first-ever rotary-powered production car, the Cosmo Sport, was launched in 1967, making 2017 the 50th anniversary of that event. Right in the middle of its 25th anniversary for its Guinness Book of Records-featured MX-5, Mazda knows how to celebrate and wants to keep the party going.

    Earlier this year, the prototype for this new RX-7 was said to employ a naturally-aspirated rotary engine based on the 16X configuration. Using "laser ignition" that test mule was said to produce around 300hp. In less than six months, Mazda has decided to add a twin-scroll turbo setup, expanding power to some 450hp.

    We'd also heard that, in the absence of a suitable rear-wheel drive platform, Mazda was using a reinforced version of the next MX-5's platform which could accommodate the suggested 300hp. But now, with over 450hp on the table, Mazda has ditched the MX-5 underpinnings and reverted to a significantly rebuilt RX-8 platform for its test mule.

    It is common knowledge in motoring circles that the RX-8's platform was already of superior build quality and rigidity and could take more power. An example was the RX-8 SP developed in Australia and raced in Targa Tasmania, which used a turbocharger to generate 275hp/225ftlb.

    The coupe you see in this pic is an artist's impression of the RX-7's design direction, based on information sourced from our insider. Using a stylised version of the company's 'Kodo' design language and the signature grille, the new rotary sports car is destined to take on lines and proportions reminiscent of modern-day sports cars like Ferraris.

    So what will the new high-performance model be called? For well over a year now, we have heard the name 'RX-9' bandied about when speaking of a next-generation RX-7. Our source now tells us that Mazda has actually registered both RX-7 and RX-9 names with Japan's trademark office, leaving their options open as to a successor's name. Given the coupe's high-performance sports car focus, unlike the hard-to-define RX-8, Mazda may well stick with the RX-7 name, which first surfaced back in 1978.

    But while the RX-8's platform is slightly larger all round when compared to that of the MX-5, our source explains that Mazda engineers are aiming to retain rigidity while decreasing the coupe's length to that approaching an MX-5.

    With the issues of the out-of-production RX-8's rotary engine – poor mileage, excessive oil consumption and weak mid-range torque – Mazda originally planned to address all of those shortcomings using the company's much lauded SKYACTIV technologies with a fully redesigned fuel-efficient, more powerful, non-turbo rotary.

    But then the marketing people interjected, explaining that a 300hp non-turbo rotary would not excite the marketplace and would fall short of its rivals' performance.

    So, aiming to seriously challenge the Porsche 911 Carrera (not the Cayman!), Mazda changed direction and bolted on two turbochargers lifting power by 75%

    Given that Mazda plans to celebrate the rotary-powered Cosmo Sport's birthday of May 1967 with the launch of a new RX-7, it stands to reason that we will see the all-new model in May 2017.



    source: http://www.motoring.com.au/news/mazd...o-rotary-44652
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    I hope that unlike all of the up and down reporting that's happened about a new RX-something lately that this is actually true. That being said, 3 years to save starting... now!
    I've got a lot less horsepower - luckily they are Japanese horses - usually in better shape and more motivated.

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    I am sure a Turbo Rotory with 450hp would be well out of my price range.

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    Time to sell some Hot Wheels!!!
    I've got a lot less horsepower - luckily they are Japanese horses - usually in better shape and more motivated.

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    Time to start buying lottery tickets

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    I actually like a lot of that rendering. There is still some Of if I don't like, but then general shape is nice!

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    I don't no why, but this sounds plausible. Mazda sorely needs another sports car in it's lineup. This could help the brand stand out and that can only be good for the value of our little cars.

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    Maybe I don't want the fd anymore.

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    Dont play with my dreams Mazda your on again off again drama with the Rx7 is just mean.

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    As much as I'd love to have one, I doubt this will come to fruition. The FD almost drove Mazda away from our shores and into bankruptcy. There aren't any other successful import sport cars currently on the market in the segment this RX7 would fit in, unless you count the Z (which has been slumping for the past few years). The RX8, as wonderful as the idea was, was a car with an identity crisis and given its history with engine failures because of salesmen, mechanics, and customers ineptness. The rotary engine to most mainstream customers will be remembered as an unreliable and financial mistake in recent memory. Adding the twin scroll turbo system will only rehash the unreliability of the FD even if this new RX7 system promises to be better. A business case for this vehicle would be really hard to make. Don't get me wrong, hope this happens. But if it does, it would only be around for a few years like the last RX7.

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    I can see them going 2 ways. tone it down and turn it into a BRZ/86 fighter (similar to what nissan want to do with the IDX) or go for broke on a GTR rival. I agree the nissan Z segment is drying up and here its always been playing catch up to the germans in sales sadly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phatmiata View Post
    I am sure a Turbo Rotory with 450hp would be well out of my price range.
    I bet you have enough "Collateral" stuffed away in a closet somewhere.
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    Better have some big bags of money stashed away in that closet.


    A GTR rival, seriously ? Mazda owners are too damned cheap to pop out 100k for a car.

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    What about Toyota owners?



    or for that matter, Nissan owners, with the very car you're talking about.

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    Dont forget Honda are trying to get back in the game with the NSX.

    I'm not going to place any bets but I would not think its too silly to think that it could never happen.

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