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[The Driver]

I don't care how great of a people person Jay is, anyone who designs a manifold with a runner flowing into another in the opposing direction isn't anyone I'd want working on my car, ever.

Care to expand? Inquiring minds want to know!

[★ Unk577 ★]

I don't care how great of a people person Jay is, anyone who designs a manifold with a runner flowing into another in the opposing direction isn't anyone I'd want working on my car, ever.

Pics of the manifold you're referring to?

[brontosaurus]

Nevermind the fact that the turbo is tack welded to the manifold. Anyone who thought this was a good idea should never touch a car. Anyone who thinks that an naturally aspirated Miata needs an AFR in the low 11s, bordering on high 10s at WOT should never touch a car.

[—Martin—]

I'm far from an expert, but that doesn't look right to me.

[maharaj]

Nice paperweight

[★ Unk577 ★]

Is that the production manifold that is being sold with the kits?

[brontosaurus]

Is that the production manifold that is being sold with the kits?

After pretty much everyone from MT.net explained why the "design" was a joke, he went and changed it. I believe a couple unfortunate beta testers have these though.

[★ Unk577 ★]

Built the runners in the wrong order. Should have built #'s 1&4 first so they would point down into the flange and then 2&3 into those. Hopefully that is the way it is now.
Everybody makes mistakes. As long as they learn from those mistakes is what matters

[Bummer]

That was a mock-up to give to his fabricator to show packaging requirements. As we all know, production parts look different than rough drafts. Below is what the production unit (with proper fabrication equipment rather than garage mock-up) looked like. Even if any feedback from MT led to changes, that would just tell me that Jay is capable of accepting criticism and building off of it. 414 Dynojet horsepower and 430 torque out of a dead reliable 2 liter plug-n-play production kit is pretty impressive. If anyone knows better, they should go into business and bless us all with their production and tuning prowess.

[brontosaurus]

That was a mock-up to give to his fabricator to show packaging requirements. As we all know, production parts look different than rough drafts. Below is what the production unit (with proper fabrication equipment rather than garage mock-up) looked like. Even if any feedback from MT led to changes, that would just tell me that Jay is capable of accepting criticism and building off of it. 414 Dynojet horsepower and 430 torque out of a dead reliable 2 liter plug-n-play production kit is pretty impressive. If anyone knows better, they should go into business and bless us all with their production and tuning prowess.

I'm glad they finally made a manifold that might be decent, hard to tell without seeing the back side of that collector. For the sake of being complete though, what you wrote isn't entirely true. The manifold I posted is indeed, a test manifold that they did initially think was a reasonable piece of work. After criticism they came up with this, which isn't much better either (http://forum.miata.net/vb/showthread.php?t=472354 for reference).



I didn't know about the newest design, it certainly does look more promising. Looks like the finally hired someone decent.