Godspeed RS Coilovers... Any good?

[Silver92B]

I see these in Ebay (http://www.ebay.com/itm/GODSPEED-90-05-MIATA-MX5-TYPE-RS-COILOVER-SUSPENSION-KIT-STRUT-SHOCK-MX-5-/400247332390?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&fits=Make%3AMazda|Model%3AMiata&vxp=mtr&hash=item5d30999e26), and I wonder if they are any good. I mean, will they work with the car, last a long time, provide enough comfort for street riding......

[atlnb]

I've never heard of them but... we need more info on what you're expecting on what you're trying to accomplish. But in the case of those, I would stay away. Do some good reading and searching and whenever you get a chance, find people with aftermarket suspension and get rides with them to narrow down what you want

[hooligan]

these are on ebay in the UK as well but at £500! or $780

look very similar in design to BC racing and other setups. i would say avoid personally as i suspect the quality will not be good.

as stated above what are you looking to achieve? stance or something that actually works on the car and will improve the ride quality

im sure you can find a decent setup for similar money that is a proven entity on the car.

[atlnb]

Ground control is always a sure thing but get back to us on your goals

[jesseshoots]

I've heard good things about godspeeds on the Miata. I have a buddy that used them and was basically laying frame on the ground as well as drifting the car. Although it was a purpose drift car he loved em

[stormin'norman]

Wow, they lay frame! They must be great..


:fp:

[Silver92B]

I just want to lower the car to get rid of the ugly fender gap. I am looking for a non-bankrupting solution that provides height adjustment, decent ride (as in comfortable), good longevity and not compromise the handling. Having said all that, I do not necessarily want a track or autox or drifting setup. I don't track or race the car.

Thanks!

[jester911]

Dude you have the best deal you can get for the money over on the Atl site with OGF that include new bumpstops and everything.

[concealer404]

Wow, they lay frame! They must be great..


:fp:


I blame CR. :lol:

[concealer404]

I just want to lower the car to get rid of the ugly fender gap. I am looking for a non-bankrupting solution that provides height adjustment, decent ride (as in comfortable), good longevity and not compromise the handling. Having said all that, I do not necessarily want a track or autox or drifting setup. I don't track or race the car.

Thanks!

The "cheapest" stuff i would even consider if i were doing the same thing as you (and i am) is the FM Vmaxx stuff.

Not because Vmaxx is the best evarrr!11!11!, but because FM did the work and development to actually make them work decently with the Miatas.

Godspeed, non-FM VMaxx, Ricelands, etc... don't even bother.

[jesseshoots]

I have driven miatas with $1000+ suspension, ones with racelands, I have the non fm vmaxx's, stock setup, multiple strut spring combos, and to be quite honest for just driving around town every once in a while without doing any serious driving there is no reason to spend a lot of money on a setup. They all ride about the same when just normal cruising at the speed limit.

With that being said I'm not knocking on top dollar setups because one day I too will purchase one. But the true difference comes out when aggressively driving the car, not when dd ing it.

[Dilly]

Eat at home for a few weeks and save that extra money to buy the new Tein Street Basis coilovers.

[stormin'norman]

The "cheapest" stuff i would even consider if i were doing the same thing as you (and i am) is the FM Vmaxx stuff.

Not because Vmaxx is the best evarrr!11!11!, but because FM did the work and development to actually make them work decently with the Miatas.


I still am quite baffled when people think FM did a bunch of r&d work to introduced their Vmaxx. Let us see: Change springs. Check. Slip on different bumpstops. Check. Jack up price? Yup.

You're just paying for FM's name and customer service. To be honest it works for them and that is good business.

[concealer404]

I still am quite baffled when people think FM did a bunch of r&d work to introduced their Vmaxx. Let us see: Change springs. Check. Slip on different bumpstops. Check. Jack up price? Yup.

You're just paying for FM's name and customer service. To be honest it works for them and that is good business.


Well... and different springs, and bumpstops. :P

They use it on one of their shop cars. One of the 2010 Targa cars they worked with ran FM Vmaxxs.

I'm not extolling the virtues of cheap bargain-basement coilovers, just saying that if you're looking in the $700 and under range, there's NO reason to go with anything other than that setup. Would you trust these Godspeeds over the FM Vmaxx? I wouldn't. :P

(Unless you happen to get a great deal on some Yellows and can throw some GCs over them)

[stormin'norman]

Well... and different springs, and bumpstops. :P


Yes, I did note that didn't I? I guess my point is its amusing how much people stroke FM for their vmaxx setup, especially on Miata.net. I brought this up and was quickly pm'd by an FM diehard telling me how wrong I was. It's clearly noted on their site. They took the cheap vmaxx/rokkor European based coilover and swapped springs/bumpstops. As far as I'm aware that's all they did.

In that price range no I wouldn't purchase the vmaxx. I think FM even states that their kit is not rebuildable. With that in mind I would go the Bilstein, sleeve, qa1 spring route, konis + " ", or Tein Basics/Street Basis. The Koni/Bilstein route in particular seems very advantageous in that later on the down the line they can be sent off to FCM (Bilstein) and the like to become quite a competent setup if one should desire to do so.

[concealer404]

I'm guessing the Bilstein/sleeve/QA1s is the only option there that's going to approach the same price range...? I could be wrong, i haven't looked into pricing every option just yet myself. Probably because my car is "doomed" to live a life as a street car.

I DO know that the price range being discussed in this thread couldn't even touch the Koni/GC sleeve/QA1 setup i run on the Escort, though.

So i guess to clarify... if OP has the money to do a Bilstein/Koni + sleeves setup, that's the route to go, for sure. :)

[stormin'norman]

Yeah, the Konis could definitely bump you out of the price range. Personally I'd go the Bilstein route though.

[concealer404]

Are we talking Bilsteins other than stock? Or just throwing sleeves and QA1s on the stock Bilsteins?

[stormin'norman]

Are we talking Bilsteins other than stock? Or just throwing sleeves and QA1s on the stock Bilsteins?

Just off the shelf NB Bilstein Sports. I'm in the process of piecing together a budget kit for my "Lazarus" project. Many others have done the same.

[Tekel]

Originally Posted by concealer404 (http://mazdaroadster.net/showthread.php?p=16966)
Well... and different springs, and bumpstops. :P

Yes, I did note that didn't I? I guess my point is its amusing how much people stroke FM for their vmaxx setup, especially on Miata.net. I brought this up and was quickly pm'd by an FM diehard telling me how wrong I was. It's clearly noted on their site. They took the cheap vmaxx/rokkor European based coilover and swapped springs/bumpstops. As far as I'm aware that's all they did.

In that price range no I wouldn't purchase the vmaxx. I think FM even states that their kit is not rebuildable. With that in mind I would go the Bilstein, sleeve, qa1 spring route, konis + " ", or Tein Basics/Street Basis. The Koni/Bilstein route in particular seems very advantageous in that later on the down the line they can be sent off to FCM (Bilstein) and the like to become quite a competent setup if one should desire to do so.

So far I've only read 1 review of the new Tein basis and the guy hated them. In this price range I'm going Megan ez

[Silver92B]

Wow! there are lots of opinions about coilovers & suspension options.... I guess the various options have their pluses and minuses. I do believe that the FM Vmaxx things look a lot like any other entry level coilover set. It's just that FM has some pretty die hard fans.... Bottom line is that top end coilovers are extremely pricey. And if one is to believe it, the entry level stuff is pretty much worthless... Too bad, it just makes it hard to decide. I guess one just has to pay one's money and take one's chances...

[stormin'norman]

So far I've only read 1 review of the new Tein basis and the guy hated them. In this price range I'm going Megan ez

I saw that "review" if you can even call it that. I'm on Basics 8/6kg set at a functional height. The car is used primarily for track use and they are quite competent for re11/star spec range of tires. They were cheap, have seen alot of miles with no signs of falling performance, and the car can keep up with just about anything in the technical sections of the track aside from some r compound shod vehicles.

I have yet to drive the Basis on the street or track so I can't really comment on them. However, I don't think anything internally changed on them. I suspect the "review" that was given on CR was by someone who had the collars dropped to their sacks, chillin on the bumps, and with no performance intentions in mind. If that were the case I am not surprised at all that he didn't have favorable things to say. The non shock body adjustable Tein dampers do not take kindly to extreme lowering. Ride quality and performance will suffer greatly.

I would love to drive a set of EZ's or Streets at the track on a car with a proper alignment, height setup, RB front sway, and complimenting tires. They seem like decent bang for your buck but I've only experienced the Streets for a 10 min street ride on all seasons.

[Itsaparty]

they are very soft.
nice for daily driving.

comparing them to megan streets...
still alot softer than megans. lol

[stormin'norman]

they are very soft.
nice for daily driving.

comparing them to megan streets...
still alot softer than megans. lol

Be specific. Which are? I think we've discussed over a dozen setups in this thread. :P

[Tekel]

I would love to drive a set of EZ's or Streets at the track on a car with a proper alignment, height setup, RB front sway, and complimenting tires. They seem like decent bang for your buck but I've only experienced the Streets for a 10 min street ride on all seasons.

Make your way to WV and I will let you check out some EZ Streets once I get them setup. I plan on running 11.5-12" and will have it corner balanced.

[Silver92B]

How about these? They look pretty good for performance and quality. Fortune Auto (http://www.fortune-auto.net/products.htm)

1924

[concealer404]

Fortune Auto seems to be a mixed bag. Decent construction, milquetoast spring rates. I can't say i've ever seen any outright BAD reviews of them. Buncha Mazda3 guys running them.

I'd lump them in with Megans.

[Silver92B]

Some with disagree strongly with you. Apparently the EVO & STi crowd loves them, and they are picky. The spring rates can be ordered any way you want, from street soft to full race hard. And they can be rebuilt in the USA.... They don't seem to be comparable with the Megans.

[concealer404]

Some with disagree strongly with you. Apparently the EVO & STi crowd loves them, and they are picky. The spring rates can be ordered any way you want, from street soft to full race hard. And they can be rebuilt in the USA.... They don't seem to be comparable with the Megans.

Break out the credit card, then. Sounds like they're right for you. :)


Do they revalve the shocks to match the spring rates you're ordering?

(For what it's worth, you can order Megans with whatever spring rates you want, too.)

[Silver92B]

Break out the credit card, then. Sounds like they're right for you. :)


Do they revalve the shocks to match the spring rates you're ordering?

(For what it's worth, you can order Megans with whatever spring rates you want, too.)

They will make them like you order them and Terry will give advise if you ask him. Apparently he's a very knowledgeable expert in the field. I have nothing against Megans. I don't have experience with them. I'm going with the recommendation of Joe of RSpeed. He is very good about keeping quality and value foremost. I also drove his car with those coilovers and it was very nice. A couple of other guys have them too and they are pleased with them....

[concealer404]

I'm not arguing... :P Go ahead and get a set. :)

I'm just wondering if they revalve the shocks for the spring rates, that's all. (I'm still wondering, for the record. ;) )

[Silver92B]

^^^ I'll ask and report about the shock valving. Although they are actually working on special valving for street use... I imagine that's related to the spring rates....