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Phatmiata
02-05-2013, 08:17 PM
FHP announces daytime driver license, vehicle inspection checkpoints

http://media2.abcactionnews.com//photo/2012/04/09/Florida_Highway_Patrol_2_20120409092602_640_480.JP G

The Florida Highway Patrol Troop C (Hillsborough, Pinellas, Polk, Pasco, Hernando, Sumter and Citrus counties) has announced the roads it plans to target with driver license and/or vehicle inspection checkpoints in February. FHP says the checkpoints will be conducted during daytime hours, and generally cause delays of five minutes or less. Scroll down for a list of all affected roads.
Here are your questions (submitted via Facebook and Twitter @TampaBayTraffic ) about the checkpoints:

Q: Is this legal?

A: There is a policy established by the Florida Highway Patrol that specifies the legal guidelines that must be undertaken by the agency to conduct driver license and vehicle safety inspection checkpoints. The information provided below comes directly from that policy, which was provided by FHP.

Q: How will this impact my drive? Won't these checkpoints cause big traffic jams?

A: Initially, every third vehicle will be stopped, however the Checkpoint Supervisor will monitor traffic to ensure a backup doesn't occur. If delays of more than three to five minutes occur, the Checkpoint Supervisor may order an alternate vehicle count (i.e. every fifth vehicle). If the traffic conditions cause a back up that cannot be easily alleviated by the alternate vehicle count, the Checkpoint Supervisor may temporarily suspend the checkpoint until the back-up has been cleared. Once cleared, the checkpoint can be reactivated using the last vehicle count method that was in place. Per the policy, the degree of intrusion to motorists and the length of detention to each driver should be kept to a minimum.

Q: Do these checkpoints affect trucks and buses too?

A: All vehicles and drivers, including commercial vehicles, buses and large trucks, that enter the checkpoint are subject to screening. The only exception is emergency vehicles.

Q: Isn't this profiling?

A: The FHP police states "vehicles and drivers shall not be stopped on a discretionary basis (i.e., due to the 'looks' of the vehicle or it occupant(s)."

Q: What's a "driver license checkpoint”?

A: Troopers will request the driver license and vehicle registration from each driver detained. If a driver is also the owner or registrant of the vehicle, the Trooper also may request proof of personal injury protection (PIP) insurance. FHP says violations will be enforced pursuant to Florida law and Division policy.

Q: What are" vehicle inspection checkpoints"? Troopers aren't mechanics, so why are they checking my car?

A: Per FHP, defective vehicle equipment, such as bad brakes, worn tires and defective lighting equipment, poses dangers to the public.

Q: What will officers inspect on my vehicle if I'm stopped?

A: Troopers may inspect the following equipment on vehicles:

Horn
Windshield wipers
Brakes
Tail lamps
Directional signals (required on all vehicles manufactured after January 1, 1972)
Stop lamps
License plate lamp
Headlamps
Steering mechanism
Tires
Exhaust system
Other readily visible equipment (windshield, bumpers, etc.)

Q: Am I going to get a ticket? How much do they cost?

A: During the vehicle inspection checkpoints, Troopers may issue a Faulty Equipment Violations, which are non-moving violations and do not carry points for the driver's record. Fees for non-moving violations vary by county. In Hillsborough County, a non-moving violation fee is $103, however if a citation is issued, drivers may have the faulty equipment replaced or repaired, provide proof of those repairs, and have the fine reduced to $83. The non-moving violation fees for other counties included in the checkpoints are: Citrus $116; Hernando $114; Pasco $114; Polk $114; Sumter $11
During the driver license or vehicle inspection checkpoints, citations may be issued for seat belt violations ($103-$116 fine). Drivers that appear to be impaired may be arrested, and their vehicles may be towed.

Q: What times will the checkpoints occur?

A: Any time between sunrise and sunset, according to FHP.

Q: Are these actually DUI checkpoints?

A: No. However if an officer suspects a driver is impaired, the vehicle will be moved off of the roadway and standard procedure for DUI investigation will be conducted. When probable cause exists to believe that the driver has committed DUI, the driver will be held/processed per Florida law and local procedures for DUI offenders. If there's probable cause to believe that the driver or any passenger in the vehicle has committed an offense involving the possession or use of any contraband drug, the driver or passenger will be secured and processed in accordance with Florida law and local procedures for contraband drug offenders. Additionally, when reasonable suspicion exists to believe that the driver or any passenger in the vehicle has committed an offense involving the possession or use of any contraband drug, a K-9 officer may be requested to conduct a K-9 sniff of the vehicle in order to detect and locate contraband drugs.

LIST OF ROADS BY COUNTY ----> http://www.abcactionnews.com//dpp/traffic/traffic_news/fhp-announces-daytime-driver-license-vehicle-inspection-checkpoints


Read more: http://www.abcactionnews.com//dpp/traffic/traffic_news/fhp-announces-daytime-driver-license-vehicle-inspection-checkpoints#ixzz2K4qd2M2F

Phatmiata
02-05-2013, 08:24 PM
Translation =

Florida needs tax payer money because they don't know how to balance the budget and crooks don't pay, but honest citizens do! :roll:

Grip Driver
02-05-2013, 09:17 PM
WTF is this shit? I feel sorry for all you Floridians

blenderblast
02-05-2013, 11:45 PM
Yeah, it is going to be effing ridiculous.

psulja
02-06-2013, 12:18 AM
Yea, that sucks. Glad I'm not in Florida!

Phatmiata
02-06-2013, 07:50 AM
WTF is this shit? I feel sorry for all you Floridians


Just an excuse to start profiling the street racers, and a way to get extra money for the overspent budget

maharaj
02-06-2013, 08:23 AM
Yea, that sucks. Glad I'm not in Florida!

At least we can still drive around with the top down! :lol: Well, sorta, until we get stopped by Officer Friendly. Guess it is time for me to put a horn on my car. Crap.

Phatmiata
02-06-2013, 08:39 AM
At least we can still drive around with the top down! :lol: Well, sorta, until we get stopped by Officer Friendly. Guess it is time for me to put a horn on my car. Crap.

Until they hear the V8 in your car, you will get pulled over now.

tsingson
02-06-2013, 08:45 AM
Sounds like California's mobile smog stations....

richterat83
02-06-2013, 10:06 AM
Meh, not a big deal

Have your licenses and documents on you and car in operating order.

I am ok with this if it catches people without licenses or insurance


now if they start running SMOG, then i'll have a problem

I<3flippyheadlights
02-06-2013, 11:45 AM
I feel like I will get a ticket for the following reasons: car too low, exhaust too loud, aftermarket steering wheel, no air bag, no horn. Also, my blinker is out and I have been way too lazy to go to the parts store. OH! My address is also wrong on my license, but I don't want to pay to change it when I have to get a new one later this year. Should be fun.


Finally, I can't wait for a cop to get on his hands and knees to see if I have a cat or not. :teehee:

blenderblast
02-06-2013, 11:54 AM
anyone have just one seatbelt I can borrow :p

f86sabjf
02-06-2013, 01:15 PM
Airbags are not required by law they are supplemental. Seat belts are

Agent☣Orange
02-06-2013, 01:29 PM
Q: Is this legal?

A: There is a policy established by the Florida Highway Patrol that specifies the legal guidelines that must be undertaken by the agency to conduct driver license and vehicle safety inspection checkpoints. The information provided below comes directly from that policy, which was provided by FHP.

In other words: We're not entirely sure and will keep pushing it until the Supreme Court rules otherwise; a process which will take a decade, cost millions of dollars and massive public outcry per each new overreaching "policy" we whip up in five minutes.

Phatmiata
02-06-2013, 04:39 PM
Airbags are not required by law they are supplemental. Seat belts are

That depends on the cop writing the ticket, if in a good mood he won't care, but if in a bad mood might as well bend over.

kung fu jesus
02-06-2013, 04:42 PM
Mmmmm...NC has these. Usually, they just ask for your license, look at your tags and send you on your way. I think once I was asked for my proof of insurance, too. No big deal.

SM16RMSM
02-06-2013, 06:53 PM
YEA, I live in Orange/Seminole County so this don't effect me yet.

cbaylis77
02-06-2013, 07:39 PM
They have to do something in Fl. No state inspection means people can get away with driving anything until they get caught. I lived in Orlando for 10 years and could tell local cops didn't pay much attention to what you drive. My same car in MA will NEVER pass an inspection.

Big Red
02-06-2013, 07:48 PM
Been doing this in Australia for years.... & sometimes I think that driving a modified car to the police they think the automotive enthusiast is a easier target. Because catching real criminals like drug dealers & burglars is a hard task! :angry:

Phatmiata
02-06-2013, 08:18 PM
YEA, I live in Orange/Seminole County so this don't effect me yet.

YET....... don't worry, it will pass from one FHP Troop to the next until it reaches your local area. If it has not already

SM16RMSM
02-06-2013, 10:14 PM
YET....... don't worry, it will pass from one FHP Troop to the next until it reaches your local area. If it has not already

Bad thing is I can't find my registration so if I pulled over, I will be SOL. But I am going to apply for a custom Tag in a few months since I have to renew in June. So I not far away from that time.

richterat83
02-07-2013, 11:20 AM
the only downside i see to this is traffic issues

Keep your car in proper order and have your papers on you like you should, and no problems

f86sabjf
02-07-2013, 12:36 PM
That depends on the cop writing the ticket, if in a good mood he won't care, but if in a bad mood might as well bend over.

No way baby I have a good attorney.:)

f86sabjf
02-07-2013, 12:39 PM
YET....... don't worry, it will pass from one FHP Troop to the next until it reaches your local area. If it has not already

I agree with this . There testing for revenue possibities. They have forgotten there supposed to protect not
FLEECE. The people who pay them and I have a good relationship with LEO's in my area from managing a gun shop yrs ago

Thumper13
02-07-2013, 09:43 PM
No way baby I have a good attorney.:)

You think you have a good lawyer...Phaty sleeps and has sex with his lawyer.

maharaj
02-08-2013, 12:00 PM
This:


http://youtu.be/QR465HoCWFQ?t=12s

I<3flippyheadlights
02-08-2013, 01:14 PM
win

RoadsterTech
02-08-2013, 03:57 PM
Group buy for Magnaflow hight flow catalytic converters anyone?
Someone in this group has got to work for an auto parts place.

Phatmiata
02-08-2013, 04:26 PM
Yes Andy does, and he goes to your local meets, he works for LKQ parts

The Driver
02-08-2013, 05:53 PM
You think you have a good lawyer...Phaty sleeps and has sex with his lawyer.

Geez so much gossip around here! Better not tell Phatties wife that he also has children with his lawyer! :eek:

Thumper13
02-10-2013, 03:23 PM
Geez so much gossip around here! Better not tell Phatties wife that he also has children with his lawyer! :eek:

Off topic....Send me a life size cardboard cutout of yourself and I'll prop you up in my Miata,that way you can "attend" Miatapalooza in person. Who knows we may even hook you up with a Hooters girl.

blenderblast
02-10-2013, 04:00 PM
Off topic....Send me a life size cardboard cutout of yourself and I'll prop you up in my Miata,that way you can "attend" Miatapalooza in person. Who knows we may even hook you up with a Hooters girl.

I don't even think that they would take him as a cardboard cut out either :p

Jimmy Vee
02-10-2013, 04:26 PM
Meanwhile, in Australia...


http://resources2.news.com.au/images/2013/02/10/1226574/889858-camouflage-cops.jpg
Camouflaged police officers keep motorists in their radar gun's sights near Healesville in the Yarra Ranges. Herald Sun

DISGUISED police hiding in bushes behind camouflage nets are using radar guns to nab hundreds of speeding Victorians.

And the Herald Sun has discovered they are planning to secretly aim their radars at thousands more motorists this year.

Victoria Police makes no apologies for the sneaky tactic and yesterday vowed to continue the blitzes.

Supt Neville Taylor said the use of camouflaged cops was developed to tackle the problem police were having with speeding motorcyclists in the Yarra Ranges.

"Since then we have used it in other areas where we have the same challenges, such as the Surf Coast and down in Gippsland, around Mt Baw Baw and Latrobe," he said. "It is clearly saving lives on the road."

An angry motorist fined after being caught by what police call "Operation Surreptitious" hit back by tracking down their hidey-hole and taking pictures of the officers in action.

"They were disguised and hiding in thick bush to nab people as they came down a hill on the only overtaking spot for miles around," said the motorist, who asked not to be identified.

"That's not fair. It's just blatant revenue raising."

The photographs, provided to the Herald Sun, show Victoria Police officers went to extraordinary lengths to avoid being seen by motorists and motorcyclists approaching them just out of Healesville on the popular Black Spur section of the Maroondah Highway.

Both officers were wearing military-style camouflage clothing and were bunkered down behind camouflage netting.

The stretch of road is one of very few places on the Black Spur where overtaking is allowed.

Supt Taylor yesterday defended the camouflage tactic as legitimate and highly effective.

"We make absolutely no apologies for doing it because it is done only in areas that have a long history of very high risk behaviour, where we have high road trauma," he said.

"Because of the terrain in the areas, such as mountainous, winding roads, the traditional enforcement methods are just not able to be used."

Police statistics reveal 911 people have been caught speeding by the camouflaged cops in the Yarra Ranges since the operation started in 2008.

The operation has resulted in 74 vehicles being impounded for exceeding the speed limit by 45km/h or more, with 53 of them being motorcycles. The top speed recorded was 199km/h.

Supt Taylor said the camouflaged cops picked up two motorcyclists doing 168km/h and 142km/h in the 80km/h zone on the day the reader took photographs.

Victoria Police has a written policy that bans the use of concealed mobile speed cameras, but there is no restriction on radar guns.
http://resources2.news.com.au/images/2013/02/10/1226574/890102-camouflage-cops.jpg
Camouflaged police officers laying in wait amid dense bushland.
keith.moor@news.com.au

Thumper13
02-10-2013, 05:07 PM
I can hear it now, Sorry judge but from where I was seated that certainly looked like a 12 point buck,it is deer season and I figured " what the hell,I pulled over got my rifle out of the trunk and shot the bastard. I didn't realize it wasn't a deer till I heard the scream.

Martin
02-10-2013, 08:52 PM
Camo cops? If the goal is truly to slow down traffic, as they say, then they would be highly visible. Nothing slows down a driver like seeing a cop.

What they are doing is clearly going after revenue.

Jimmy Vee
02-10-2013, 09:44 PM
Camo cops? If the goal is truly to slow down traffic, as they say, then they would be highly visible. Nothing slows down a driver like seeing a cop.

What they are doing is clearly going after revenue.
Totally agree, a couple of people will learn their lesson, a few more will move on to somewhere else to drive/ride, and the rest will just pay the fine, sit out the suspension and then keep doing it.