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Mints
05-12-2013, 09:13 AM
Just curious to see what oil you NA guys are running in your 1.8l. Doing my first oil change on the car and looking to see what oil to go with. Car also has 131k miles.

riefdaddy
05-12-2013, 09:32 AM
I went with Shell Rotella T-6 Synthetic 5W-40. I will probably switch over to Mobil 1, but the Shell is well regarded in Miata circles due to the detergents. If you have lifter noise, this can definitely help resolve it.

SM16RMSM
05-12-2013, 09:39 AM
I have Shell Rotella in the diesel truck and I run Mobile 1 in both the Spec Miata & MSM.

Mints
05-12-2013, 09:52 AM
5w-30??

Dmn2258
05-12-2013, 09:53 AM
i run shell rotella 10w-30

RuckkehrMiata
05-12-2013, 10:35 AM
Mobil 1 High Mileage (10w30), but my motor is very, very old and it is very hot here in Orlando.

BoBo
05-12-2013, 08:49 PM
10w30 or even better 5w30.Mobil 1 0w30 will work better as well.

wannafbody
05-12-2013, 11:05 PM
Rotella is 5W40 which is good a good choice. I'm currently running some high zinc Amsoil 15W50 in the track car, pretty expensive but probably a bit better protection than a thinner weight oil.

BoBo
05-27-2013, 05:25 PM
Super Tech oil from walmart is also a good deal.

theothersawyer
05-28-2013, 12:01 AM
I use Rotella 15w-40!

Flyin 92
05-28-2013, 07:23 AM
I've run Mobil 1 5w-30 full synthetic for a few years now with good results.

RoadsterTech
05-28-2013, 07:27 AM
Mobile 1 15W50 on the old 305K mile engine.
Mobile 1 5W30 on the new 50K mile engine.

maharaj
05-28-2013, 08:07 AM
Mobil 1 Fully Synthetic 0W-30

ya boy willz
05-28-2013, 12:35 PM
Mobil 1 Full Synthetic 10W30. I'll use Penzoil full synthetic as well if autozone has a good special on it (meaning no Fram filters).

BigWaveDave
05-28-2013, 02:52 PM
Mobil 1 Fully Synthetic 0W-30.

Ciotti
05-28-2013, 11:14 PM
Amsoil 5w-30, same price as the other synthetics but always beats them in the tests.

DK Wolf
05-29-2013, 02:20 AM
Mobil 1 or Rotella all the way.

Don't fall for Royal Purple, it ruined my first 13B along with plenty of other engines on other forums.

The Driver
05-29-2013, 10:42 AM
I went with Shell Rotella T-6 Synthetic 5W-40. Shell is well regarded in Miata circles due to the detergents. If you have lifter noise, this can definitely help resolve it.

Right here.

I<3flippyheadlights
05-29-2013, 12:18 PM
I used to use whatever 5-30 synthetic blend was at my friends shop. I then soaked my engine in ATF and motorflush for a week. Changed that out and put in Rotella T6. Started up with llittle lifter tick, ran better and doesn't burn as much oil.



But it will show your oil leaks....

The Driver
05-29-2013, 12:22 PM
But it will show your oil leaks....

Most if not all synthetic oils will do this. I mean, they are supposed be more slippery!

I<3flippyheadlights
05-29-2013, 06:10 PM
I'm glad it did, just be prepared!

Johnnie
06-01-2013, 11:42 AM
Mobil 1 Fully Synthetic 0W-30

Since maharaj is not running a 1.8, I'll chime in here, too.

Pennzoil Platinum 5W30 in the NC 2.0 MZR. Purolator filter is externally identical to the USA-made Mazda branded filter, but much cheaper.

kung fu jesus
06-01-2013, 01:14 PM
I see lots of thick oils being used. Hoping there is an understanding about flow and pressure.

Chops
06-01-2013, 10:49 PM
Not a 1.8, but I just put the middle one below in a couple weeks ago. Seems to be pretty good stuff so far.

http://image.eurotuner.com/f/news/eurp_1107_kendall_gt1_liquid_titanium_tuner_news/32992699+w799+h499+cr1+ar0/eurp-1107-10%2btuner-news%2bgt1-liquid-titanium.jpg

Pyr0monk3y
06-10-2013, 01:05 PM
Mobil 1 or Rotella all the way.

Don't fall for Royal Purple, it ruined my first 13B along with plenty of other engines on other forums.

I don't want to start an argument here but I've heard horror stories like that about every synthetic.

I think the real problem behind these oils is that they do such an amazing job of keeping the engine clean. If you run your oil for too long or if you have been running conventional oil for tens of thousands of miles, there is buildup inside your engine. The detergents inside synthetics like Royal Purple or Mobil one clean this build up. Unfortunately, sometimes this build up will be in the form of a chunk and clog an oil passage. Then.......... Boom

RyanG
06-10-2013, 01:58 PM
I use rotella t6 because a few of the more hardcore people on Miataturbo have sent out various oils for analysis after use and t6 seemed to do the best in BP's.

Andy
06-13-2013, 08:39 PM
I the Miata I use rotella t6. In my volvo I prefer to use Mobil one 0w40. It is one of the few true synthetics in America. It measures up to the European standard for oil testing which is much more rigorous and strict. It is a true synthetic rather than most other "synthetic" oils.

Even though it is a 40 weight hot it acts as a 35 weight.

By the way royal purple is not a bad oil if you are into brands but the problem with them is they have a relatively low shear time. After about 2000 miles the oil is pretty broken down and needs to be changed. Across the board Mobil 1 0w40 has been one of the best oils on the market.

I did way too much research on the matter one time. Rotella t6 is also another fantastic oil and has greatly reduced lifer tick in the Miata but is a little too heavy and too much detergents for me to want to run in a more modern engine. I have read some bad things about clogged cats.

MiataMatt
06-14-2013, 08:14 AM
Honestly, I drive a 93 miata with 96k on it. It was made in 1992. 20 years ago we didnt have nearly as fancy synthetic oils as we do today, and the car was designed with clearances for conventional motor oil. After 96k miles of (i'm assuming, because it was an older woman who seemed to maintain the car, but not go above and beyond) generic jiffy lube type oil changes, I stick to my cheap oil. And I mean I walk into (insert autoparts store here) and buy whatever is on sale that week. This week it was 5 qts of quaker state conventional and a driveworks filter for $17.95.

The problem with switching to synthetic is the particles are not similar in size to conventional. Think of conventional particles like this : ooO0oo0oo0o0oOOO0o and synthetic like this: ooooooooooooo. The more uniformly smaller particles find their way out of any and all wear in any gaskets or o-rings etc. Also there is always the chance that the bearings and such are worn and the synthetic is too thin to lubricate properly. Under extreme forces (most often track driving) this can kill an engine.

All this being said, when I do build a motor for the miata I will break it in on full synthetic and run a high quality synthetic in it every oil change.

Massiah
06-21-2013, 12:31 PM
I run Mobil 1 10/30 in the '99 with the Wix #51356 big filter. Engine is 2000miles old now. Thinking of going to Rotella T6 or Amsoil but no issues with Mobil.

The '94 I'm not sure yet. It just had an oil change done by the PO, he used Castrol HM 10/30 with factory filter. I'm going to move to the larger filter but idk what oil to use. What would you guys recommend for a 185k bottom end that burns a bit of oil (1qt every oil change, per PO)?

Andy
06-21-2013, 12:50 PM
^ I would try to shell rotella t6. About $20 a jug on a bad day and the jug is 4 quarts ish. The miata only takes 3.5 quarts so you should have a little extra for the burning.

kung fu jesus
06-21-2013, 01:07 PM
Honestly, I drive a 93 miata with 96k on it. It was made in 1992. 20 years ago we didnt have nearly as fancy synthetic oils as we do today, and the car was designed with clearances for conventional motor oil. After 96k miles of (i'm assuming, because it was an older woman who seemed to maintain the car, but not go above and beyond) generic jiffy lube type oil changes, I stick to my cheap oil. And I mean I walk into (insert autoparts store here) and buy whatever is on sale that week. This week it was 5 qts of quaker state conventional and a driveworks filter for $17.95.

The problem with switching to synthetic is the particles are not similar in size to conventional. Think of conventional particles like this : ooO0oo0oo0o0oOOO0o and synthetic like this: ooooooooooooo. The more uniformly smaller particles find their way out of any and all wear in any gaskets or o-rings etc. Also there is always the chance that the bearings and such are worn and the synthetic is too thin to lubricate properly. Under extreme forces (most often track driving) this can kill an engine.

All this being said, when I do build a motor for the miata I will break it in on full synthetic and run a high quality synthetic in it every oil change.

Hmm, that is a bit antiquated. I can assure you my '92 saw nothing but synthetic. Two turbo systems, a supercharger, and track time well over 40 hours. After 165k I scoped the cylinders. No scoring, cross-hatching intact. Bearing surfaces on the head were within spec and zero signs of varnish on the castings or HLAs. Oil is cheap, even synthetic, engine repairs are not.

AntiochOG
06-21-2013, 05:49 PM
Mobil 1 Fully Synthetic 0W-30

PHEOX
06-23-2013, 11:16 PM
Rotella. Just switched to it and all of my leaks are showing quite more than before. No issue to me, getting all seals replaced in a couple of weeks.

Ihatecars
06-24-2013, 03:03 AM
Apparently I'm a psychopath, but I use 10W-30 Royal Purple. I've used it in everything expect for my Rx-7(Synthetic+Rotary=Not that good of an idea) without any problems.
Oh, and I used a lighter weight(5w-30 typically) last winter in the Ka my 240sx had. Might do the same for the roadster this winter.

atank
06-24-2013, 06:14 AM
Mobil 1

iamdallas
06-24-2013, 08:38 PM
Rotella T6.