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mini_fd
12-16-2013, 08:04 PM
I've been meaning to get around to a huge pictorial on how to install frame rails since I have had them on my NB since September.


They were installed by Esteban from REDLINE in Kissimmee, Florida


Here are the nuts and bolts that came with the package along with two frame rails. Now my rails were bad but not as bad of the rails one any slammed miata. Mine were okay to work with.

http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2893/11410977456_0ab87d694e_c.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/63839450@N02/11410977456/)
Bag o Nuts (http://www.flickr.com/photos/63839450@N02/11410977456/) by rocketeerbandit (http://www.flickr.com/people/63839450@N02/), on Flickr


Inspection of the damage

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Banged up Rails (http://www.flickr.com/photos/63839450@N02/11410968525/) by rocketeerbandit (http://www.flickr.com/people/63839450@N02/), on Flickr



http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2847/11411097513_576bdb5692_c.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/63839450@N02/11411097513/)
Banging Rails (http://www.flickr.com/photos/63839450@N02/11411097513/) by rocketeerbandit (http://www.flickr.com/people/63839450@N02/), on Flickr



Remove the following in the cabin of the car:


Seats
Seat belts from the bottom bolt
Side door sills
Fold over carpet



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IMG_0510 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/63839450@N02/11410903426/) by rocketeerbandit (http://www.flickr.com/people/63839450@N02/), on Flickr




http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3683/11410892695_734ebf9e23_c.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/63839450@N02/11410892695/)
IMG_0511 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/63839450@N02/11410892695/) by rocketeerbandit (http://www.flickr.com/people/63839450@N02/), on Flickr



http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7374/11410884423_bfca1559ce_c.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/63839450@N02/11410884423/)
Seat removal (http://www.flickr.com/photos/63839450@N02/11410884423/) by rocketeerbandit (http://www.flickr.com/people/63839450@N02/), on Flickr



http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5481/11410880183_67da1eb029_c.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/63839450@N02/11410880183/)
Seats Removed (http://www.flickr.com/photos/63839450@N02/11410880183/) by rocketeerbandit (http://www.flickr.com/people/63839450@N02/), on Flickr




http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7379/11410905974_f81d37fde4_c.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/63839450@N02/11410905974/)
IMG_0519 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/63839450@N02/11410905974/) by rocketeerbandit (http://www.flickr.com/people/63839450@N02/), on Flickr



http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5542/11410775074_c6fca7b023_c.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/63839450@N02/11410775074/)
Remove Carpet 2 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/63839450@N02/11410775074/) by rocketeerbandit (http://www.flickr.com/people/63839450@N02/), on Flickr




Unclip this wire to make sure you do not drill into it when your 2nd man is under the car making and preparing the holes for the nuts and bots


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IMG_0548 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/63839450@N02/11410871124/) by rocketeerbandit (http://www.flickr.com/people/63839450@N02/), on Flickr



http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7437/11410731766_0e4d4cbd8c_c.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/63839450@N02/11410731766/)
Unclip Wire Harness (http://www.flickr.com/photos/63839450@N02/11410731766/) by rocketeerbandit (http://www.flickr.com/people/63839450@N02/), on Flickr


http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7303/11410737276_1cc55e6646_c.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/63839450@N02/11410737276/)
Unclip Wire Harness 2 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/63839450@N02/11410737276/) by rocketeerbandit (http://www.flickr.com/people/63839450@N02/), on Flickr






Getting the car on the lift

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IMG_0524 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/63839450@N02/11411010893/) by rocketeerbandit (http://www.flickr.com/people/63839450@N02/), on Flickr


http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2881/11410770645_a1d095ddce_c.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/63839450@N02/11410770645/)
On the lift (http://www.flickr.com/photos/63839450@N02/11410770645/) by rocketeerbandit (http://www.flickr.com/people/63839450@N02/), on Flickr



We used a pair of pliers and a metal mallet to bang the existing rails in a place where we can slide the new frame rails on and over them


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IMG_0581 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/63839450@N02/11410827825/) by rocketeerbandit (http://www.flickr.com/people/63839450@N02/), on Flickr


http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5532/11410934155_7d7ddfffc4_c.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/63839450@N02/11410934155/)
Deformation (http://www.flickr.com/photos/63839450@N02/11410934155/) by rocketeerbandit (http://www.flickr.com/people/63839450@N02/), on Flickr


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Deformation 2 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/63839450@N02/11410944356/) by rocketeerbandit (http://www.flickr.com/people/63839450@N02/), on Flickr


Then we removed the fuel lines out of the way because they will be relocated from there original mounting points

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7323/11410825736_2bcbf651fe_c.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/63839450@N02/11410825736/)
IMG_0584 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/63839450@N02/11410825736/) by rocketeerbandit (http://www.flickr.com/people/63839450@N02/), on Flickr


http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7394/11411044733_34f74e8c52_c.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/63839450@N02/11411044733/)
Fuel Line Removal (http://www.flickr.com/photos/63839450@N02/11411044733/) by rocketeerbandit (http://www.flickr.com/people/63839450@N02/), on Flickr


Dont forget the one next to the transmission up a ways


http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7440/11410874363_67c261979a_c.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/63839450@N02/11410874363/)
Top Transmission Fuel line Clip (http://www.flickr.com/photos/63839450@N02/11410874363/) by rocketeerbandit (http://www.flickr.com/people/63839450@N02/), on Flickr

http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3686/11410863866_ef6d3408f8_c.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/63839450@N02/11410863866/)
IMG_0539 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/63839450@N02/11410863866/) by rocketeerbandit (http://www.flickr.com/people/63839450@N02/), on Flickr



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IMG_0535 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/63839450@N02/11411003943/) by rocketeerbandit (http://www.flickr.com/people/63839450@N02/), on Flickr


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IMG_0541 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/63839450@N02/11410855345/) by rocketeerbandit (http://www.flickr.com/people/63839450@N02/), on Flickr



http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2873/11410899243_5c47fc4226_c.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/63839450@N02/11410899243/)
Remove all fuel line Clips (http://www.flickr.com/photos/63839450@N02/11410899243/) by rocketeerbandit (http://www.flickr.com/people/63839450@N02/), on Flickr




Now this is where a light weight guy like Esteban gets into the cabin while on the lift to perform the two man job for this write up


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IMG_0561 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/63839450@N02/11410977873/) by rocketeerbandit (http://www.flickr.com/people/63839450@N02/), on Flickr




We placed the frame rail on one side and mounted it. It was able to hang easily while we drilled underneath the car. We drilled one hole at a time with bolts being installed from the top and the nuts hand tightened from the bottom.


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Let the Drilling Begin (http://www.flickr.com/photos/63839450@N02/11410789045/) by rocketeerbandit (http://www.flickr.com/people/63839450@N02/), on Flickr





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IMG_0553 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/63839450@N02/11410846405/) by rocketeerbandit (http://www.flickr.com/people/63839450@N02/), on Flickr




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IMG_0566 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/63839450@N02/11410834105/) by rocketeerbandit (http://www.flickr.com/people/63839450@N02/), on Flickr


http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2847/11410728256_88f980e6d8_c.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/63839450@N02/11410728256/)
V8 Roadsters (http://www.flickr.com/photos/63839450@N02/11410728256/) by rocketeerbandit (http://www.flickr.com/people/63839450@N02/), on Flickr



http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5498/11410919193_5f6d761700_c.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/63839450@N02/11410919193/)
More Drilling (http://www.flickr.com/photos/63839450@N02/11410919193/) by rocketeerbandit (http://www.flickr.com/people/63839450@N02/), on Flickr

mini_fd
12-16-2013, 08:04 PM
Bolts and washers from the top and nuts underneath lol


We then would hold a socket wrench up top and tighten the nuts from the bottom with the air gun


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Bolts-Washers_ (http://www.flickr.com/photos/63839450@N02/11410952595/) by rocketeerbandit (http://www.flickr.com/people/63839450@N02/), on Flickr

http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5525/11410946784_7645c5bb20_c.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/63839450@N02/11410946784/)
First Nut (http://www.flickr.com/photos/63839450@N02/11410946784/) by rocketeerbandit (http://www.flickr.com/people/63839450@N02/), on Flickr




http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7326/11411056623_cfc004b95a_c.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/63839450@N02/11411056623/)
Frame Rail (http://www.flickr.com/photos/63839450@N02/11411056623/) by rocketeerbandit (http://www.flickr.com/people/63839450@N02/), on Flickr






http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3763/11410913065_e22d576f71_c.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/63839450@N02/11410913065/)
frame rails (http://www.flickr.com/photos/63839450@N02/11410913065/) by rocketeerbandit (http://www.flickr.com/people/63839450@N02/), on Flickr


http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5546/11410818016_a1bc0a905c_c.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/63839450@N02/11410818016/)
IMG_0588 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/63839450@N02/11410818016/) by rocketeerbandit (http://www.flickr.com/people/63839450@N02/), on Flickr



http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7356/11410828584_072483ba8a_c.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/63839450@N02/11410828584/)
IMG_0589 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/63839450@N02/11410828584/) by rocketeerbandit (http://www.flickr.com/people/63839450@N02/), on Flickr


http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7439/11410939233_53be691c3a_c.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/63839450@N02/11410939233/)
IMG_0591 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/63839450@N02/11410939233/) by rocketeerbandit (http://www.flickr.com/people/63839450@N02/), on Flickr


This was the tricky part. We had to makeshift a thick enough washer to mount the fuel lines and being in a shop full of part out miatas we were able to use a seatbelt washer.


http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5494/11410797896_505288e838_c.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/63839450@N02/11410797896/)
IMG_0593 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/63839450@N02/11410797896/) by rocketeerbandit (http://www.flickr.com/people/63839450@N02/), on Flickr




The only thing i regret not doing is not putting a water resistant silicone on the bolts to block any water from getting in the cabin through the holes but i honestly dont think it will ever happen. Its not like I'm boating the miata so heads up if you want to do this.


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V8 Roadsters-2 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/63839450@N02/11410855233/) by rocketeerbandit (http://www.flickr.com/people/63839450@N02/), on Flickr

Phatmiata
12-16-2013, 09:18 PM
great photos and install!! Thanks given!!!

The Driver
12-16-2013, 11:15 PM
That project brought back memories!

mini_fd
12-17-2013, 10:13 AM
Oh oh what happened.

The Driver
12-17-2013, 10:17 AM
Oh oh what happened.

Who me? Oh, just the install. My V8R frame rails went in w/o a hitch!

ozbrock
12-17-2013, 12:21 PM
Nice write up! I've been on that lift before!

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Tungsten6
12-17-2013, 12:54 PM
Glad to see you got them on, dont really pay attention to this forum anymore unfortunately.

mini_fd
12-17-2013, 01:31 PM
Hey Andrew miss you buddy. Can't wait.to hang out with you sometime