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    6,000 rpm - mere mortals would shift JamieH's Avatar
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    Happens from time to time? That's a shitty response. Maybe if there was more than tack welds it wouldn't happen at all.

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    5,000 rpm - there be torque here! Greasemonkey2000's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by BoBo View Post
    I heard about ground clearance issues with the Butterfly, but never saw it in person. Would love to see pics though. I could be wrong but I remember Keith mentioned how the Butterfly brace was no lower than the FM rails but at the same time I'm hearing negative feedbacks of how the B-brace was scraping and catching things on the ground. Can someone shed some light on this topic?
    The butterfly brace has height adjustment but of course your exhaust size/setup will dictate the height. I currently have a stock exhaust and could raise mine some but not much and it is lower than anything else. I am currently lowered to approximately 4.5"F/4.75"R pinch weld heights and the butterfly brace scraps on speed bumps or similar road elevations. Here is a recent pic to illustrate:


    NOT slam friendly for sure...any road kill bigger than a squirrel will get a hair cut or worse.

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    2,000 rpm - light wheelspin, no bog here! pnoy1duh's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by JamieH View Post
    Happens from time to time? That's a shitty response. Maybe if there was more than tack welds it wouldn't happen at all.
    Believe me, I was surprised by that response as they've normally been very good with customer service.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BoBo View Post
    +1 The Hardtop really took care of that NVH. I have HD door bars as well but haven't installed them yet.
    Do. It.

    On the NA, I bought some clear plastic covering, similar to a phone screen protector. It was a 60" x 3" roll, IIRC. Found it on Amazon. It goes on the same way as a screen protector. It saves the powdercoating getting in an out of the car. Personally, I don't think the car is much more difficult to get out of and actually helps getting out because you have the doorbar to push off of.

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    3,000 rpm - starting to feel the power BoBo's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by kung fu jesus View Post
    Do. It.

    On the NA, I bought some clear plastic covering, similar to a phone screen protector. It was a 60" x 3" roll, IIRC. Found it on Amazon. It goes on the same way as a screen protector. It saves the powdercoating getting in an out of the car. Personally, I don't think the car is much more difficult to get out of and actually helps getting out because you have the doorbar to push off of.
    That's exactly why I bought the door bars it looks like a little "push off bar". It's nothing compared to my bar hoping auto power cage, but I have to redo my interior next year before I install the door bars. I also need to install better door shells with less dents before the respray...I'm trying to avoid body fillers. I swear these side projects cost money but my Miata has come a long way since inception.
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    Like most bracing, there's not one piece that's going to make a world of difference but a combination that cumulatively makes the difference.


    No todo que es oro brilla.

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    If you consider doorbars bracing, I would respectfully disagree.

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    ^^^Heard this several times before...hopefully when i do a roll bar i will find out because i plan on doing door bars then or shortly there after.

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    When I added doorbars to my '92, I already had a bolted on hardtop. The doorbars took away about 90% of the rattles and buzzes in the cabin. Additionally, the chassis has a similar feel that of a modern chassis at speed. The car felt considerably more planted initiating a turn, something that was also noticeable when I bolted a set into my 10ae.

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    I did a modified (reinforced) BF door bar installation to mine and yes, the difference was night and day for sure.

    Writeup with photos: http://gearheadsmiataclub.net/vB/sho...d-installation


    No todo que es oro brilla.

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    I use to have a hardtop. I actually had the opposite reaction. One of the reasons I sold it was because with the hardtop on it amplified any rattles and squeaks by a large margin. With the roof down I cant hear any or barely.

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    I installed the FM frame rails sometime around Christmas. Mind you the car has not come down from the jack stands since, I can still feel a difference just opening the doors while it's on the stands.
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    Your priorities seem a bit messed up to me, although that's because I try to get my lap times to decrease.

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