$600 NA Build Thread - Just notes and thoughts - opinions wanted

[Chops]

Shitty old heavily modified 1990 MX6 GT Turbo. ;)

Hey, if it does what it's supposed to, that's all that matters.

[jaredef]

Then again, with FWD, too much gas and you keep heading straight! Not good for going through a turn... LOL

I've always wondered, why does this happen?

[Chops]

I've always wondered, why does this happen?

Seriously?

Massive tire spin = no traction whatsoever = you go off the road in a turn

[concealer404]

I've always wondered, why does this happen?

A spinning tire doesn't turn too well. On top of that, when you accelerate, you unload the front tires. When your front tires are trying to steer AND accelerate while you're unloading them... yep.

That's what's called "understeer."

[jaredef]

i thought tire spin generated traction.

[Chops]

i thought tire spin generated traction.

Nope. Just heat and smoke. No traction.

[concealer404]

i thought tire spin generated traction.

In terms of pure physics... it will to a point. When the tire spins, acceleration is slowed, which brings a certain load back to the front, giving more traction.

Until you repeat the process.

[jaredef]

[concealer404]

Oh man. You sure got us.

[fastnfurious7]

Back to the OP's topic - you have quite a list there. I would think you would come out with more ponies, less headache & very close to the same money doing a V8 swap if you are good with a wrench.

[adamvanxxx]

Don't worry about rear sway
GT2860RS
Absurd flow hot side
Torsen
6 speed or be ready to replace 5 speed when it grenades
Tubular arms are not needed at all
lots of time for the poly bushings
Find something cheaper than the FM clutch kit
Pedal kit????
MEGASQUIRT



There are PLENTY people that daily 250whp+ cars, they just are on this forum.

[imperfekt]

lol @jaredef.

i think a 270hp miata would be insane. i'm shooting for 175 out of a jrsc 1.8, and i think that'll own a lot of unsuspecting victims.

have you thought about sc instead of turbo? look into the power levels of a simple, un-built mp62 charger... then think about what it'd be like if the engine were more built.

[adamvanxxx]

SCs are more expensive and harder to make power on. I have ridden in a M45 car and a 280whp NB, I would take a turbo car ANY day.


WAAAYY more money to make a SCd car even nearly as fast as a shitty turbo car.

[Chops]

SCs are more expensive and harder to make power on. I have ridden in a M45 car and a 280whp NB, I would take a turbo car ANY day.


WAAAYY more money to make a SCd car even nearly as fast as a shitty turbo car.

Not true. Besides, you're comparing the smallest SC to a good sized turbo. There's no way an M45 will come anywhere close to 280whp, even with a pulley upgrade. Slap an M62 with pulley upgrade then run it with the turbo car. I bet it'll be a whole lot closer.

Also, what was that M45 on, a 1.6?

[adamvanxxx]

Yes it was, I am not really comparing more or less just saying that even with a MP62 with a pulley will STILL cost 2x the amount to make the same power of a decent turbo kit.

Is there even anything bigger than the 62? Next step up would be a rotrex system and that will MAYBE get you to 300whp and cost as much as an LSX.

At least if you have a turbo and you want more power you just turn up the boost, you don't have to buy an overlay or grind the wheel smaller.