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    The warm glow of the VU meters is hard to beat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by freedomgli View Post
    The warm glow of the VU meters is hard to beat.
    I agree...I am thinking of changing the gauge and HVAC bulbs to something equivalent.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hammerhead View Post
    As the build of 93LE #1040 is not yet completed and I gave the Rover to my daughter to drive to school, I've been driving my long neglected 93LE #140. I bought new 205-50/15 Direzza DZ102 tires, installed a new shorty radio antenna and Runabout mirrors. The MSSS1 stereo was acting up, so I pulled the Panasonic I purchased last year off the shelf and installed it last night. I need to custom fab a faceplate and bracket so that it fits properly.

    that is amazing! I might need one of those!

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    Replaced my fuel filter, fuel pump, injectors, and the ecu! AND it still doesn't run...


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    Quote Originally Posted by Hammerhead View Post
    I agree...I am thinking of changing the gauge and HVAC bulbs to something equivalent.
    Gauges are easy, just remove the green condoms from the bulbs. HVAC is going to require an aftermarket panel since the color comes from the panel itself; the HVAC bulbs are already bare. Just get some Revlimiter gauges and a HVAC panel.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JamieH View Post
    Gauges are easy, just remove the green condoms from the bulbs. HVAC is going to require an aftermarket panel since the color comes from the panel itself; the HVAC bulbs are already bare. Just get some Revlimiter gauges and a HVAC panel.
    Indeed! I've done all this work before on some previous Miatas. I went full LED on the project car (93LE #1040), changing everything down to the bulbs in the cruise control and A/C switches.

    I do have a KGW wavy HVAC (and gauge) panel(s) to install next.

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    @hammerhead: Oh how i have longed for one of those Panasonic's!

    Especially the one with visible tubes, like so:

    Only thing with this one is i believe it is actually bigger than a standard double din. Warbird needs it so badly....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Imontalto View Post
    Replaced my fuel filter, fuel pump, injectors, and the ecu! AND it still doesn't run...
    Bummer. What prompted you to start replacing parts in the first place? How did you go about diagnosing the problem?

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    What did you do to your NA today? 2016 version

    Quote Originally Posted by freedomgli View Post
    Bummer. What prompted you to start replacing parts in the first place? How did you go about diagnosing the problem?
    Well I had just finished routine maintenance in preparation for my first mountain drive road trip (oil change, fluid & spark plug check... Car wash) and the car broke down shortly after leaving the house.
    It honestly felt like the car was out of gas, but I had just filled the tank the day before. My first thought was the fuel pump, as I hadn't changed it in a long time. After replacing that, and it was desperately in need of replacement, I moved to the fuel pump. I couldn't really hear it running, so I figured it was either not working or weak. I replaced that and the problem persisted, so I moved to the fuel rail and injectors. When taking the fuel rail off, two injectors fell off of it with o-rings that were pretty loose, so I replaced those and when I did, one of the injectors started leaking into the cylinder and hydro locked the engine. Fired the fluid out of the engine, replaced the injector, and it still wouldn't crank. Just kept turning over endlessly. Stared at diagrams for a few hours and decided to test the computer for issues with injector signals. Found that the pin that fires injectors 1&3 had an apparent disconnect somewhere along the circuit board. Replaced computer. Car still won't start. So now the only thing we can think of is a crank angle sensor. We did some tests and it isn't working either. It seems like it shorted out and that is what fried the computer. Or at least that's our best guess...


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    Quote Originally Posted by Imontalto View Post
    Well I had just finished routine maintenance in preparation for my first mountain drive road trip (oil change, fluid & spark plug check... Car wash) and the car broke down shortly after leaving the house.
    It honestly felt like the car was out of gas, but I had just filled the tank the day before. My first thought was the fuel pump, as I hadn't changed it in a long time. After replacing that, and it was desperately in need of replacement, I moved to the fuel pump. I couldn't really hear it running, so I figured it was either not working or weak. I replaced that and the problem persisted, so I moved to the fuel rail and injectors. When taking the fuel rail off, two injectors fell off of it with o-rings that were pretty loose, so I replaced those and when I did, one of the injectors started leaking into the cylinder and hydro locked the engine. Fired the fluid out of the engine, replaced the injector, and it still wouldn't crank. Just kept turning over endlessly. Stared at diagrams for a few hours and decided to test the computer for issues with injector signals. Found that the pin that fires injectors 1&3 had an apparent disconnect somewhere along the circuit board. Replaced computer. Car still won't start. So now the only thing we can think of is a crank angle sensor. We did some tests and it isn't working either. It seems like it shorted out and that is what fried the computer. Or at least that's our best guess...


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    Circuit control relay. It's aka fuel pump relay. It controls timing, fuel, ignition. I went through this 51 weeks ago.

    It is under the dash, driver's side.


    It is hard to diagnose because it touches so many systems and the relay goes by different names. It's about $60-90. PM me directly if you have more questions.

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    Pardon me, it's called the 'circuit opening relay', see the lower right drawing for it's location:



    It also looks like this:







    You can see it if you lay on the floor, head in the footwell, driver side. You can also see it if you remove the gauge hood and instrument cluster.

    If you have the California emissions version, it may be a little different. That ECU and EFI runs the injectors sequentially, not batch fired.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Greasemonkey2000 View Post
    @hammerhead: Oh how i have longed for one of those Panasonic's!

    Especially the one with visible tubes, like so:

    Only thing with this one is i believe it is actually bigger than a standard double din. Warbird needs it so badly....
    There is one in this Evo Orange NB here in ATL:

    https://atlanta.craigslist.org/nat/cto/5673748528.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by kung fu jesus View Post
    There is one in this Evo Orange NB here in ATL:

    https://atlanta.craigslist.org/nat/cto/5673748528.html
    Geez, the last one i was trying to get went for $400+. If I had the money to make an offer i would but alas....thanks for the heads up Steven!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Greasemonkey2000 View Post
    @hammerhead: Oh how i have longed for one of those Panasonic's!

    Especially the one with visible tubes, like so:

    Only thing with this one is i believe it is actually bigger than a standard double din. Warbird needs it so badly....
    I have this model, too. I wanted to wait until I have this car 'ready' before I install it. On e a sad note, mine did not come with the remote.

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