Tein or Raceland suspension?

[wannafbody]

Ride height also plays a role in the amount of body roll.

[BlueMotorsport]

I've had both Racelands and VMaxx on Miata's and all I can say is that both are pretty much the same thing and absolutely horrible. Spring rates are way too soft and the shocks blew out in less than a month on both of mine. Pretty much the only thing they're good for is being slammed, because why should you waste an expensive coilover on that. Go with the Tein's if it will ever see the track!

^this is what i was looking for. So many members state that "omg go with this company blah blah blah" and they are no different then the racelands. i put my order in for the teins, and for the did somebody really ask this question? yes i did and for good reason. Nothing compares to real world experience and the word of the customer. I thank you all for the input, and will give feedback on the tein coilovers once they are on the car

[concealer404]

These instances were on others' cars. The Godspeeds (on a 240) were BRAND new, the other set ups were probably between 1-2 years.

Wait... so you aren't even comparing Miatas to Miatas?

[stormin'norman]

Wait... so you aren't even comparing Miatas to Miatas?

seems legit.

[—Bryan—]

Wait... so you aren't even comparing Miatas to Miatas?

Sounds like it, doesn't it?

[concealer404]

seems legit.

Definitely!

Bro, my Celica on Megans handles better than my Miata on Bilstein/Mazdaspeed setup. This means Macstrut > double wishbones.

Sounds like it, doesn't it?

Sure does...

[psulja]

My miata with FM springs completely killed that focus hatch in the corners, and he has coils! Just goes to prove FM is king and you don't need a proper coilover setup when springs will do the trick.

[bedheadben]

Ride height also plays a role in the amount of body roll.

Thank you, no one ever brings that up. The lower you go on an McPherson Strut or SLA suspension like the Miata, the more body roll you get.
When you lower the suspension, the roll center actually drops more then the center of gravity does, thus making the roll couple longer. In turn, gravity now has more "leverage" to roll the car around and it will actually be less stable than it was at stock height.

All of that goes out the window if you're on bump stops. Some people think their Racelands handle great in the corners. They don't. Their bumpstops handle good in the corners.

^this is what i was looking for. So many members state that "omg go with this company blah blah blah" and they are no different then the racelands. i put my order in for the teins, and for the did somebody really ask this question? yes i did and for good reason. Nothing compares to real world experience and the word of the customer. I thank you all for the input, and will give feedback on the tein coilovers once they are on the car

I'm glad I could help you figure it out. I wish you luck with the Tein's!

[Tekel]

^this is what i was looking for. So many members state that "omg go with this company blah blah blah" and they are no different then the racelands. i put my order in for the teins, and for the did somebody really ask this question? yes i did and for good reason. Nothing compares to real world experience and the word of the customer. I thank you all for the input, and will give feedback on the tein coilovers once they are on the car

Even questioning the comparison of ricelands and Tein shows that you had done zero research. It's like asking if you should buy a bottle of filtered piss or a bottle of (insert name brand water here).

[diabeetus]

Even questioning the comparison of ricelands and Tein shows that you had done zero research. It's like asking if you should buy a bottle of filtered piss or a bottle of (insert name brand water here).

is the piss fresh? or 1+ days old?

[Tekel]

is the piss fresh? or 1+ days old?

3+ days on the side of a road in Arizona stored in a milk jug.

[diabeetus]

oh shit. yeah that'll do it hahaa

[WASABI]

Ride height also plays a role in the amount of body roll.

Thank you, no one ever brings that up. The lower you go on an McPherson Strut or SLA suspension like the Miata, the more body roll you get.
When you lower the suspension, the roll center actually drops more then the center of gravity does, thus making the roll couple longer. In turn, gravity now has more "leverage" to roll the car around and it will actually be less stable than it was at stock height.

All of that goes out the window if you're on bump stops. Some people think their Racelands handle great in the corners. They don't. Their bumpstops handle good in the corners.

Ben, are we talking "stock" stock height, like 13+ fender to wheel center? Or is there a reasonable amount of drop that will improve the handling, before you go too far (slammed). I'm asking this(no expert here), because, spec Miatas run lower than stock height, and they look like they handle pretty good. I measured five and a quarter inches from the bottom pinch weld (rear) to the ground, on a SSM raced Miata.

-Jim

[bedheadben]

Ben, are we talking "stock" stock height, like 13+ fender to wheel center? Or is there a reasonable amount of drop that will improve the handling, before you go too far (slammed). I'm asking this(no expert here), because, spec Miatas run lower than stock height, and they look like they handle pretty good. I measured five and a quarter inches from the bottom pinch weld (rear) to the ground, on a SSM raced Miata.

-Jim

Yes, this doesn't happen too drastically until you lower the car to the point where the control arms are facing up towards the chassis instead of down away from the chassis. Ideally you want your lower control arms facing slightly down away from the car. Lowering the car a little bit does help CG a bit but I wouldn't necessarily say that there is a perfect ride height for performance. It all depends on your spring rate/aero setup/etc.

Also the camber curve starts to get steep past more than a few inches lower than stock anyways. You ideally want to set each end of the car so that it's in the correct part of the camber curve for how much camber you want it to gain. For example, if you want the front to gain more camber you would lower it, then realign so the static camber is the same. It would then gain camber quicker as you traveled through the suspension, but have the same camber static.

[Dmn2258]

i would agree to go with Tein coils. I've heard mostly bad things about "ricelands". But If you wanted to save a little money, I have Megan Racing EZ Streets on my na which I got for around $600 off ebay and I'm very pleased with them.