HID FOR NBFL (NB2)? What are your experiance!!!

[brzicro]

Hi,

Just started to search about HID lights!

What are your experience? Is the effect of HID really that good?

My miata is 2003. What is best place to get HID, what model? If it is possible to be some plug and play kit!!!

Ivan

[— Phatmiata —]

Hi,

Just started to search about HID lights!

What are your experience? Is the effect of HID really that good?

My miata is 2003. What is best place to get HID, what model? If it is possible to be some plug and play kit!!!

Ivan

A plug and play kit ??? You mean specific to Miata?

I think only the guys in Japan have a "Kit" per say for the Roadster.


HID vs Regular

Here is the Joyfast Kit, they have several applications for NB1, NB2, NB3, NB4 http://www.joyfast.com/parts/exterior/003.html






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It is the HID head lamp KIT that targets type 1 type 2 type 3 type 4 NB roadster. The power unit is easy to install compact design with integrated inverter and igniter. Power unit, all cars are common.

[] NB1
NB1 type is H4 halogen bulb is genuine valve. Adopt a function of slant burner drive system to slide diagonally as this patent. I was a faithful reproduction of the source position of the halogen bulb with this.
In state-of-the-art drive mechanism that achieves light distribution characteristics and reliable natural, high and low is to come by the NB1 owner.
This is a strength of 2-lamp.

<SETnaiyo>
burner KIT × 2 (slant-drive system patent pending)
power unit × 2

4700 Kelvin
5500 Kelvin
Please choose from the 6300 Kelvin.

Over-the-counter installation, including tax price
4700 Kelvin 70,000 yen
80,000 yen 5500 Kelvin
6300 Kelvin 90,000 yen

Mail order, including tax price
4700 Kelvin 67,800 yen
77,800 yen 5500 Kelvin
6300 Kelvin 87,800 yen

It is low both correspondence: High with one of this: NB1 burner unit.

[NB2 NB3]
NB2 type, three types are made ​​to 4-lamp, the power unit 4, High & Low simultaneous lighting harness is required if you want to both high and low HID mosquitoes.
Since I will be sale only low beam KIT this basically, thank you.
Please let me know the person you want to be HID high beam.

<SETnaiyo>
burner KIT × 2 (HB4)
× 2 power unit

4700 Kelvin
5500 Kelvin
Please choose from the 6300 Kelvin.

Over-the-counter installation, including tax price
4700 Kelvin 60,000 yen
70,000 yen 5500 Kelvin
6300 Kelvin 80,000 yen

Mail order, including tax price
4700 Kelvin 56,800 yen
66,800 yen 5500 Kelvin
6300 Kelvin 76,800 yen

NB2 ~ 4 for low burner unit. is low write-only product.

The NB4 []
regarding, NB4 type, valve type H7, is used in low beam on a vehicle of 400000 series and later body number.
High beam detected that you're using the HB3 NB2 NB3 same. power unit with four, high and low simultaneous lighting harness is required if this place is also high and low both HID mosquitoes.
Thank you I will consider it as the sale of only low beam KIT this basically.
Please let me know the person you want to be HID high beam.

<SETnaiyo>
burner KIT × 2
(1995) in 1995 fixed adapter 1SET (2 pieces)
× 2 power unit

4700 Kelvin
5500 Kelvin
Please choose from the 6300 Kelvin.

Over-the-counter installation, including tax price
4700 Kelvin 61,000 yen
71,000 yen 5500 Kelvin
6300 Kelvin 81,000 yen

Mail order, including tax price
57,800 yen 4700 Kelvin
5500 Kelvin 67,800 yen
77,800 yen 6300 Kelvin

Difference in brightness by the color temperature
I was allowed three available this time burner.

Pale color, 5500 Kelvin will be pale flash of ultimate when it comes brightness distinguished, in 6300 Kelvin with natural blue 4700 Kelvin.
Please think 6300 Kelvin and last-minute car inspection is also good ultimate but considering the inspection criteria.
I think one of about 4100 Kelvin because has also been adopted discharge head lamps that are used in new car now, brightness of 6300 and you can imagine.
5500 Kelvin has orchestrated the NB Qi Tan of our store.

* For mounting
If you have received the order of attachment in our store, so as to fit the bumper in the power unit with the desorption front bumper once, I installed it in consideration for appearance.

If you would experience the HID, you can not return to halogen.
By all means! ! Please to experience the fun of night, the joy.

[SM16RMSM]

First, you need to know your bulb numbers. For US, it 9006 for the low beams. I don't know if it the same as Miata overseas. There are many kits out there, but the cheaper they are, the crappy quality you will get. Ask me how I know.

[brzicro]

Here are some pics:









I think it's the same as on US market.

Can you give me some suggestions about some difference in HID, so I would not do some foolish mistake??

Thanks!!

[SM16RMSM]

Well, for starters, it's different looking. In some aspects, with certain amount of street lighting, I don't notice that much of a difference in lightning brightness. But in rural area or areas with limited street lighting, the HID do stand out. In order to get the maximum output of light, you need to choose a color range.

I personally like 4300K to 4500K. This is going to be the whitest you can get. At 5000K, you will start getting some light blue tint into the color. This is what I have now. Thee picture you gave is the same as what is used in the US. It a 9006/HB4 headlight bulb. I bet other countries cal it a HB4 where in the US it called 9006. As for plug and play, as long as you get a 35 watt kit, you will have no issues with running them on the stock wiring harness.

If you go for the 55 watt kit (my plans for the future), you will want to get a relay harness. There are many different companies out there that do this. I relay harness is used since the draw of power is more and the stock wiring is too thin to handle that much power.

http://www.theretrofitsource.com/pro...oducts_id=3182

This is the relay harness I will run when I do the upgrade.

As for a plug and play kit, they are everywhere. There are a few good articles about them round the web. Google is your friend when it comes to this info. I have a DDM Tuning kit in my MSM now. But they suck. AND they don't honer their "Lifetime Warranty". But they are cheap enough to replace if something does happen. Only down side was the shipping time from China. The Retro Fit Source has complete kits with Harness for around $150 I think. It everything that is needed and the quality is most likely better too.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fPZ9-GaOvE0

This video is good when looking at eBay kits. McCulloch HID is a good kit, XenonDepot HID is popular since they use Philips stuff. Xtreme HID is popular since they are made in Japan (plus for us right).

[Left0verCurry]

+1 for DDM Tuning, bought three 35W kits for about $100 shipped. Never had a problem, and installation is easy just look it up on youtube.

[brzicro]

Just to check, that all is for low beam only? I do not see a point to put HID on hi beam!

Thanks!!

[— Agent☣Orange —]

Yes, low beam only. DDM also makes a 55W slim ballast kit.

I'm surprised the conversation didn't turn into a debate about cutoff.

For high beam, I used HIR bulbs: Toshiba or Philips 9011(HIR1) which needs slight modification to make them 9006 compatible.

Rob, didn't you get my DDM kit?

[SM16RMSM]

+1 for DDM Tuning, bought three 35W kits for about $100 shipped. Never had a problem, and installation is easy just look it up on youtube.

Damn, I bought mine for $45 shipped. I guess the price went up.

Just to check, that all is for low beam only? I do not see a point to put HID on hi beam!

Thanks!!

You only need the 9006 bulbs. Bowl reflector + HID = Poor & Blinding Light to oncoming drivers. You will blind everyone with HID in the High Beams. Not enough benefit to having HID. My stock bulb for high beams work just fine with the 35 watt kit.

Yes, low beam only. DDM also makes a 55W slim ballast kit.

I'm surprised the conversation didn't turn into a debate about cutoff.

For high beam, I used HIR bulbs: Toshiba or Philips 9011(HIR1) which needs slight modification to make them 9006 compatible.

Rob, didn't you get my DDM kit?

No, I didn't get those since I have my piece of s***. I really frustrated with DDM Tuning and there crappy lifetime warranty BS. I looking at either the HIR and doing the 9012 or 9011 (which ever is the high beam and modding it for the low beam housing) or I might look into the 9006 kit from the RetroFit Source or one of the other companies I mentioned in a 55 watt ballast.

Why to we need to discuss cut off when he installing in the stock projector. At lease he doesn't have a NB1 and trying to install them the bowl reflector housing.
Bowl reflector + HID = Bad. Yes the stock projectors needs some work but I've only seen one person who completed a projector swap and it more time consuming then spending time with your grandma for 4 weeks.

[— Agent☣Orange —]

Not debating it. HID retrofits work great in stock NB2 projectors. Just saying there's always someone who shows up talking about how the bowls weren't designed for HID, posts a link to Daniel's Lighting and then later someone posts that NB2s (NBFL) use projectors instead.

[Hyper]

i have a fairly new plug and play HID kit from KATZ lighting *for euro cars* that I removed from mine, the output is 5k and is considerable way much better than OEM. About the only think i dislike about HID kits is the additional hardware in the engine bay, would post pics later is 10 46 pm here

[Left0verCurry]

Damn, I bought mine for $45 shipped. I guess the price went up.

Group buy FTW!

[brzicro]

@Hayper

Hi, were did you get your kit? Please give more info, is harness required(or included) in kit?
And put some pics if you have time!!

Thanks!

[SM16RMSM]

Group buy FTW!

Nope, regular price I believe. Here the receipt.

Not debating it. HID retrofits work great in stock NB2 projectors. Just saying there's always someone who shows up talking about how the bowls weren't designed for HID, posts a link to Daniel's Lighting and then later someone posts that NB2s (NBFL) use projectors instead.

Well looks to talking about it, you.

[Hyper]

@Hayper

Hi, were did you get your kit? Please give more info, is harness required(or included) in kit?
And put some pics if you have time!!

Thanks!

you bet I will. I boughtthe kit from a place in Miami called Car Boutique this is the place where the install the same kits in old Benz and Beemers. I know the brand name is KATZ lighting I have to double check and is 5k output which is not blue or blueish is bright white. like snow white.